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    It seems as though they either ceased to exist or simply stopped being interesting after 9/11. When's the last time you heard of a Gein, a Dahmer or a Bundy? Where did they go? Are they now the "lone wolves" and terrorists we see plastered across the news? Are they too easily caught in the age of mass-surveillance, social media and smart devices? They've obviously appeared all over the globe for hundreds of years, but it seems as though there was a period in the latter half of the 20th century where a uniquely American cult of personality sprung up around them - prison marriages, fan mail, documentaries, high profile interviews - then vanished.
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    great post verj.

    in the states their's an epidemic of mass shooting, which has supplanted serial killing at least in terms of media attention.

    columbine seems to be something of a turning point; murder that speaks no longer to the murderer's own personal psychological symbolism but rather as something to communicate and be broadcast to the world.

    terrorism is by nature about attacking mass cultural symbols. the world trade centre, westminster bridge, the israeli olympic team.

    there's a theory that jihadism by westerners results from the 'islamisation of nihilism' rather than by people provoked by religious teachings.

    in the states you can see this with that incel attack; the attempt to imbue an emotional propensity for violence with some sort of ideological resonance.

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    we tend to portray serial killers as vulnerable; mentally unwell, victims of tough childhoods, etc.

    so i wonder if there's an attempt to remove any notion of pathology from murderous acts these days. try to present murder as motivated by something grand, rather than it just be for weirdos.

    you'd get this with the ideological spin terrorism lends murder.

    in drill there's a preoccupation with depersonalising murder and making it numerical. 'scoreboard', 'they say 150, but it's 146 instead', 'olympic chinging', 'shh', etc. an attempt to make it clinical and gladiatorial rather than emerging from something emotional or psychological.

    murder for murder's sake has become a bit 'gay' in other words.

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    Definitely harder to get away with it these days. Did you see what a mess the police made of catching (and holding onto) Bundy?
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    Way easier to spray a room with gunfire then shoot yourself, kids are bone idle these days

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    "Crime in the United States has been recorded since colonization. Crime rates have varied over time, with a sharp rise after 1963, reaching a broad peak between the 1970s and early 1990s. Since then, crime has declined significantly in the United States,[1] and current crime rates are approximately the same as those of the 1960s"
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    There are loads of theories concerning that rise and fall

    Here's 16 of them

    https://www.vox.com/2015/2/13/8032231/crime-drop
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    i think most of them become ceo's of big companies these days. perfect way to kill people and to get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yyaldrin View Post
    i think most of them become ceo's of big companies these days. perfect way to kill people and to get away with it.
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    I think most of them had the genetic makeup that allowed them to become serial killers, but even born psychopaths don't tend to become violent without being encouraged to by the circumstances of their youth. The percentage of psychopaths who become serial killers is miniscule. But the percentage of serial killers who ARE psychopaths is high.

    There's a good book about the question of where these disorders come from biologically "The Anatomy of Crime". For example, the presence of mercury in household products (now illegal) would have had an effect on many people's brains. The percentage of iron a pregnant mother gets in their diet has a direct link to the chance of their unborn baby growing up delinquent. Etc.
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    The majority of serial killers have several things in common. Bed-wetting, animal abuse, arson - but the most critical factors seem to be abusive parents and suffering a head trauma in childhood that damages the pre-frontal lobe.

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    Those things haven't stopped occurring though yet serial killers apparently have, that or they've simply become much less visible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    Those things haven't stopped occurring though yet serial killers apparently have, that or they've simply become much less visible.
    the disappearance of the contemporary serial killer in the popular imagination. there aren't any zeitgeist defining serial killers.

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    pedophiles have replaced serial killers in british culture at least.

    ian huntley was the crossover point of this cultural attention shift.

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    in the states the black lives matters thing has gone all post-modern and subversive. now the cops are the murderers.

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