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    Default Are you a luddite?

    A lot of what's appearing in terms of technology feels increasingly negative - DeepFakes, social credit algorithms, facial recognition, drone warfare, social media, smart devices - but it's also increasingly difficult to avoid using or coming into contact with any of it due to how fully the majority and society are embracing these things. You can make a point of not using Facebook or Google and they're still gonna track you round the web, other people's devices are going to record you whether you like it or not and even if you hold out as long as you can, you're eventually going to have to upgrade devices, software and so on.

    I guess my main question would be whether anyone feels positively toward any of these developments or the direction that technology is taking in general.

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    Total luddite checking in. Barely use Facebook now. Has been an improvement. But being online in general, carrying an always connected, always tracking device that shows you news stories and ads related to conversations you had last night really feeds into my paranoia.

    There are plenty of positives. Many things are made easier, like finding places via maps, communicating with people all over the world. But the dark side is just way too dark and ultimately I think the Internet is what brought us the black lodge reality we now exist in.
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    there's good and bad in everything, technology included.

    my mother had a pacemaker, along with a small box of electronic gear at home. the pacemaker would sync wirelessly to the unit, which would monitor heartbeat activity and beam reports to a satellite, which it turn would transmit the readings to her clinic. it allowed them to do periodic readings any time of the day or night and monitor for abnormalities, and saved my elderly mom from making frequent trips to the clinic.

    lots of other amazing technology in health care, such as smart artificial limbs that can be controlled by users, etc.

    sure, tech gets used for evil, but it also offers lots of amazing benefits and value.

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    Also dolphins get by just fine without technology
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    I think it's the lack of choice in some of this stuff which really bothers me. They're apparently cutting off Windows 7 updates in the next year or so, so anyone using it is going to have to keep moving up to increasingly newer and less private versions of Windows and you won't have much choice unless you can either afford a Mac or all the software you need can be run on Linux.

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    Gonna stick with Windows 7 for as long as possible. 10 fkn sucks. I try to avoid Windows update whenever possible. Running a base installation of win7 sp1 with no updates currently and haven't had any major problems. Really pissed me off to find out 7 won't run on the newest cpus. Also, I never run antivirus. Occasional scan with malwarebytes and maybe once or twice a year trend micro housecall. But I've been given a 2nd laptop and have my phone I'm gonna try and keep my DAW laptop offline from now on.
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    The rate of change feels like a sticking point too. You take something like automation, there are apparently around three million truckers in the US and self-driving trucks aren't far off. How quickly and effectively are people going to be able to adjust to that reality?

    The internet and social media in particular feel like things we really weren't ready for and which are forcing us to now cling on for dear life. Nobody knows how to regulate and legislate for this stuff or how to deal with the social and psychological consequences.

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    lack of choice hits home when you go into a cashless store, where the only way to buy is with credit/debit card or something like ApplePay. how is that fair to people who for whatever reason don't have bank accounts, credit cards? cash in hand but unable to buy.

    the windows 7 thing was just in the news, it's the software that runs most of the voting machines in the US. now that it no longer going to be supported, there won't be any new security updates after a certain point, making the machine even more susceptible to hacking. and voting machines are the property of each state, and most states election commissions don't have the budget to upgrade to newer, more secure software. a disaster waiting to happen.

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    The rate of change feels like a sticking point too. You take something like automation, there are apparently around three million truckers in the US and self-driving trucks aren't far off. How quickly and effectively are people going to be able to adjust to that reality? .
    there were also millions of people who drove horse-and-buggy carriages, worked at telegraph companies, travel agencies, newspaper printing plants, etc. the transformation is never easy but it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattycakes_ View Post
    Also dolphins get by just fine without technology
    Patty keeps out-pattying himself

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    Love it.

    Bluetooth speakers, bluetooth headphones, smart lightbulbs, VR porn, Red Dead Redemption 2, IMAX, Avengers Assemble, Spotify, YouTube...

    It's amazing.

    Social media is satanic, the internet is a hellscape. That's a shame.

    There's never been a time in history when people WEREN'T complaining about technology ruining everything. Or complaining about something else. How fucking boring it is sitting in a hut warming your hands over a fire while your granddad recites Beowulf. Wish we had a fucking PS4.
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    Good riddance wires.

    Remember how cassette tapes would always get chewed up? And you had to fast forward and rewind. Horrible.
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    Come on C3PO take my fucking job

    Give me my universal basic income and let me lie in the park all day sipping elderflower juice
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    I'd like to keep all the new tech and radically curtail the internet.
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    I can see horses making a comeback on the streets of London.
    That would be great actually. Car parks turned into stables and blacksmiths.
    Horseshit collected for urban farms.
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