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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    luka's favs obviously have their take on it too:

    The Hidden Messages in “Eyes Wide Shut” - https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesan...ide-shut-pt-i/

    “Eyes Wide Shut” was promoted as a steamy, suspenseful movie starring the “It” couple of the day: Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. While the actors were prominently featured in the movie, it is everything around them that told the true story of “Eyes Wide Shut”. Stanley Kubrick’s attention to detail and symbolism gave the movie an entire other dimension – one that cannot be seen by those who have their eyes wide shut. This multiple-part series will look at the hidden symbolism of Kubrick’s final film.
    I'm pretty sure this is how I discovered vigilant citizen

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    Don't leave us hanging.
    not sure if i told this story already but:

    i was invited to an “art performance“, together with a friend and a friend of him. we didn’t have any info. when we arrive we realize the address is just a regular apartment on the ground floor. we ring the bell and a girl wearing a white toga opens. she scans us and slams the door shut again. we wait a bit, not sure what to do and after a few seconds she opens the door again and tells us we are allowed in. the apartment is completely white, everything, from walls to ceilings to furniture. there’s about 15 people inside and they are all wearing these toga’s, but they’re half naked, boobs and genitals everywhere. they are all young and beautiful. one of the girls tells me to sit next to her, and she then starts to tell how she had a mental breakdown some weeks ago in the supermarket and it was then that she met a guy called “papa“, who helped her and took her into his family. at one point they all sit down in a circle and start singing a song about this “papa“, they all know the lyrics perfectly. they don’t have names but call themselves by the letters of the greek alphabet (alpha, beta, gamma, etc). i wanted to roll a cigarette but was not allowed to use my own tobacco and had to use theirs. well, it goes on a bit longer and more of them tell me stories about “papa“. i thought it was all a joke then one asks me if i want to meet him. i was like sure why not. so a girl takes me to the corner of the room and it looks like they just drilled a hole in it, a ladder is going down into a basement. it’s dark but there are some candles spread around. she takes of her toga and is now completely naked. then she takes of my shoes, my socks, pants and so on. until i’m naked too. she doesn’t say a word during all of this. actually i don’t know why at that point i didn’t say or do anything. curiosity maybe? she then blindfolds me. she takes my hand and guides me through the basement, we stop and she washes my feet and hands with warm water. she then puts her arms around me and is doing some sort of breathings exercises. i’m sweaty and a bit afraid. we move further and at one point she tells me to sit down, i do and she sits herself behind me and gives me a massage. then i suddenly hear a low male voice, asking me “who are you“. i’m guessing this is “papa“ (i’m still naked and blindfolded). well i’m really a bit frightened now and he’s asking me some more questions until he says i’m ready for the ritual with the candle. tells me i can pick any of the family members to help me with this ritual, i tell him i forgot their names but would prefer if one of the girls could help (no intention, i’m just thinking about my safety, i’m not the strongest). so another girl comes down, takes my hand and we move further inside this basement until she tells me i can take of the blindfold. in front of me is an altar with a painting of a guy (i guess “papa“?), the room is lit by about hundred candles. well the story is a bit of an anti-climax because i’m now being told i can do a wish, carve the first letter of that wish into a candle and light it. i’m escorted to the ladder again, put on my cloths and go up. in order to not look like panicking i stay there for another fifteen minutes before i sneak out.

    the whole thing lasted around two hours, not a single person laughed, or blinked or gave me any hints that this was theater. i didn't know what was real or fake anymore, i thought i was the crazy one.

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    that's insane! did you ever discuss it with the friends who came with you? what happened to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yyaldrin View Post
    not sure if i told this story already but:

    i was invited to an “art performance“, together with a friend and a friend of him. we didn’t have any info. when we arrive we realize the address is just a regular apartment on the ground floor. we ring the bell and a girl wearing a white toga opens. she scans us and slams the door shut again. we wait a bit, not sure what to do and after a few seconds she opens the door again and tells us we are allowed in. the apartment is completely white, everything, from walls to ceilings to furniture. there’s about 15 people inside and they are all wearing these toga’s, but they’re half naked, boobs and genitals everywhere. they are all young and beautiful. one of the girls tells me to sit next to her, and she then starts to tell how she had a mental breakdown some weeks ago in the supermarket and it was then that she met a guy called “papa“, who helped her and took her into his family. at one point they all sit down in a circle and start singing a song about this “papa“, they all know the lyrics perfectly. they don’t have names but call themselves by the letters of the greek alphabet (alpha, beta, gamma, etc). i wanted to roll a cigarette but was not allowed to use my own tobacco and had to use theirs. well, it goes on a bit longer and more of them tell me stories about “papa“. i thought it was all a joke then one asks me if i want to meet him. i was like sure why not. so a girl takes me to the corner of the room and it looks like they just drilled a hole in it, a ladder is going down into a basement. it’s dark but there are some candles spread around. she takes of her toga and is now completely naked. then she takes of my shoes, my socks, pants and so on. until i’m naked too. she doesn’t say a word during all of this. actually i don’t know why at that point i didn’t say or do anything. curiosity maybe? she then blindfolds me. she takes my hand and guides me through the basement, we stop and she washes my feet and hands with warm water. she then puts her arms around me and is doing some sort of breathings exercises. i’m sweaty and a bit afraid. we move further and at one point she tells me to sit down, i do and she sits herself behind me and gives me a massage. then i suddenly hear a low male voice, asking me “who are you“. i’m guessing this is “papa“ (i’m still naked and blindfolded). well i’m really a bit frightened now and he’s asking me some more questions until he says i’m ready for the ritual with the candle. tells me i can pick any of the family members to help me with this ritual, i tell him i forgot their names but would prefer if one of the girls could help (no intention, i’m just thinking about my safety, i’m not the strongest). so another girl comes down, takes my hand and we move further inside this basement until she tells me i can take of the blindfold. in front of me is an altar with a painting of a guy (i guess “papa“?), the room is lit by about hundred candles. well the story is a bit of an anti-climax because i’m now being told i can do a wish, carve the first letter of that wish into a candle and light it. i’m escorted to the ladder again, put on my cloths and go up. in order to not look like panicking i stay there for another fifteen minutes before i sneak out.

    the whole thing lasted around two hours, not a single person laughed, or blinked or gave me any hints that this was theater. i didn't know what was real or fake anymore, i thought i was the crazy one.
    This is amazing, I actually jumped out of my seat when the voice said "who are you"!

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    i took a flyer with me that was laying around, my guess is they spread these throughout the city hoping some strangers would bite.

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    Ladies are an essential asset to any cult leader. If I could get more ladies I could easily triple my acolyte count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid View Post
    Ladies are an essential asset to any cult leader. If I could get more ladies I could easily triple my acolyte count.
    Maybe papa can help
    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

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    i thought it was all a joke then one asks me if i want to meet him.
    This would definitely be where I would have got the fuck out.

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    luka's basement.

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    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

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    yyaldrin, I love how your curiosity led you to be voluntarily and wordlessly stripped naked in an unknown house full of cult members, blindfolded and led into a basement to meet 'Papa', but you weren't ever curious enough to stream Eyes Wide Shut.

    Amazing story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    At the time of release, critics slated Kubrick for shooting everything in a studio, the general view was that he'd become so isolated from reality that he could only make a very unreal film where the city didn't resemble a real city at all.
    Those critics are idiots. Talk about missing the point - it's from a novella called Dream Story ffs!

    Amazing film. I always wonder if people who don't like it, actually like cinema at all. Obviously for a few people it would just be a traumatising reminder of past art performances, but that's another thing.

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    All i can contribute to this is one of these days ill get around to watching this movie,my mum saw it at the time and said she was bored out of her skull watching it.

    As far as the symbolism i dunno yes the private ritualistic goings on of the rich doesnt seem as far fetched now as it did then but i think thats only because of how wide spread and commonly held the idea that theyre fucking crazy cravenous and insular they are carrying on with esoteric nonsense as ways of indoctrinating people "hazing" as a practise be it politics or high school football teams in america never made sense to me.

    Somebody i heard on a podcast kinda summed up my feelings on alot of this stuff in that you hope if these people were leaving hidden messages in things it would be in something interesting but it usually boils down to "the image of jesus found on a piece of toast"

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    As far as Kubrick goes i should get around to watching The Killing and Paths of Glory since ive read a couple Jim Thompson books and he worked with Kubrick on those (more likely Kubrick took all the credit lol)

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