Communist music reviews
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luka
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I mean, as I understand it commies have always had a problem with art in general is that they want class consciousness and revolution and art always gets viewed with suspicion as escapism or distraction or salve or even as propaganda for capitalism and the power structure.
So you either get condemnation of art as a whole or you get art as agit prop which is not art. Is just hectoring and dishonest at that.
Not saying that's necessary or ubiquitous.
So you either get condemnation of art as a whole or you get art as agit prop which is not art. Is just hectoring and dishonest at that.
Not saying that's necessary or ubiquitous.
other_life
bioconfused
my brain would be here for this literally any other week i feel like im underperforming here in a huge way.
communism is thoroughly confused with lesbian domestic bliss in my brain right now
communism is thoroughly confused with lesbian domestic bliss in my brain right now
I'll make amends later, I've got someone round and I'm cooking.
eh don't worry about it for me. just saying get the lad chemistry right. we don't want this place to turn into unilad.
lol. nice one. why am i the lonely one here? even luke has guests. fucking hell, maybe i need to be the first brown gay incel...
I mean, it's not something exclusive to communists is it? Conservatives have their own political art as well, Kim, Lord of the Flies, all those Asimov novels, Celine, Nietzsche, just because they are the ruling power structure we don't say it's wanky and dishonest agitprop but it is isn't it? That doesn't mean you can't see the merit in it, I think Nietzsche is a great stylist in the same way that a lot of non-PC dancehall is electrifying, NWA etc.
Wynton Marsalais is suspicious of hip hop isn't he? Yet he's anything but a communist! quite a neocon in fact. same with Stanley Crouch.
loads of muslim clerics are suspicious of the hyper-sexualised music that the ummah is being led astray by. and their political views can be all over the place.
you've just internalised a bit of a british framework here i feel.
loads of muslim clerics are suspicious of the hyper-sexualised music that the ummah is being led astray by. and their political views can be all over the place.
you've just internalised a bit of a british framework here i feel.
other_life
bioconfused
oh all that right wing WHAT IF THIS HYPOTHETICAL IS ALREADY HAPPENING AROUND US? MAKES YOU THINK ; ) shit is miiiles worse than the most cloying bragg or mccarthy tune especially because its presentation as 'art' is so pervasive whereas any attempt at bringing the struggle for communism into the ambit of the lyrical themes or the visual company of (broadly) 'pop' music is so readily dismissed
it's not like I'm saying it has to be consciously evoked or anything. ruffneck bizniz!
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/talking-about-a-revolution-5409462.html
operative word being clubland. jungle was not the music of clubland. when it tried to become that, it became jump up drum and bass.
I'm not really interested in a didactic communist music, just like I'm not hugely into celebration of capitalism unless it's something like up jumps da boogie with some kind of darkness to it - not just the crude oversexualising from Magou and Missy which hits you in the gut but timbo being like: See a black man dead from a white man's powder See a white man scared from a black man's power - not necessarily that lyric but how it is architecturally delivered in that context with the eerie globular post-punk like beat.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/talking-about-a-revolution-5409462.html
operative word being clubland. jungle was not the music of clubland. when it tried to become that, it became jump up drum and bass.
I'm not really interested in a didactic communist music, just like I'm not hugely into celebration of capitalism unless it's something like up jumps da boogie with some kind of darkness to it - not just the crude oversexualising from Magou and Missy which hits you in the gut but timbo being like: See a black man dead from a white man's powder See a white man scared from a black man's power - not necessarily that lyric but how it is architecturally delivered in that context with the eerie globular post-punk like beat.
it's weird luke because you always say that you're bored stiff in clubs and wonder why on earth you're there. and that's exactly what I'm trying to do! I'm trying to show how the club is a conservative space but the dance, or dance music, itself can still be revolutionary festivals of the exploited. dance music not club music.
sadmanbarty
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wow entered the dissensus hall of fame with that one. craner's the only one of us who has had sex before.
tea's girl let him get her pregnant, but i think it was more of a thing where he slung it at her like in silence of the lambs.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
tea mate you have the strangest music taste on dissensus. idk how to work it out. are you secret entryist from we're going deep on fb?
like you seem to be the only other 303 freak on here apart from me but you never seem to expound the virtues of that silver box. why not? you're a communist without knowing it.
like you seem to be the only other 303 freak on here apart from me but you never seem to expound the virtues of that silver box. why not? you're a communist without knowing it.
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Mr. Tea
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blissblogger
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i'm gathering this thread went off in a completely different direction, but in response to the initial request
the New Left Review at the end of the Sixties had some rigorous writing on rock and youth culture
https://newleftreview.org/issues/I6...-second-thoughts-on-a-rock-aesthetic-the-band
(unfortunately the piece fades out into 'subscriber only' after a bit - somewhere i have the whole thing)
that was in response to a piece by Richard Merton, aka Perry Anderson, later the stalwart of Verso Books and a pretty sharp dissector of postmodernism
can't find that essay (about the superiority of the Stones over the Beatles) but here's a secondhand account of it with quotes
https://chaosofmemories.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/perry-anderson-meets-the-rolling-stones/
the New Left Review at the end of the Sixties had some rigorous writing on rock and youth culture
https://newleftreview.org/issues/I6...-second-thoughts-on-a-rock-aesthetic-the-band
(unfortunately the piece fades out into 'subscriber only' after a bit - somewhere i have the whole thing)
that was in response to a piece by Richard Merton, aka Perry Anderson, later the stalwart of Verso Books and a pretty sharp dissector of postmodernism
can't find that essay (about the superiority of the Stones over the Beatles) but here's a secondhand account of it with quotes
https://chaosofmemories.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/perry-anderson-meets-the-rolling-stones/