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    The moment you saw, read or heard something and just knew it was over.

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    deconstructed club.
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    lo fi house.
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    positive developments? can't thhink of any that aren't in my own chronology. acid was a big one for me but it was invented before i was born.
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    I really liked juke when i first heard it but did it sound world forming? probably not.
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    did it? that start never came really.
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    I'm more interested in the moments where it felt as though genres peaked/died or suddenly announced themselves to the world at large but personal ones are cool too, opens the thread up a bit.

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    Caspa and Rusko's FabricLive seems like the moment for dubstep, although maybe that's only with the benefit of hindsight.

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    Caspa and Rusko's FabricLive seems like the moment for dubstep, although maybe that's only with the benefit of hindsight.
    nah. for me it's markomen vs j:kenzo braindrop february 2008. i thought it would get madder and madder from there. it did but not in the direction i wanted it to. that was the peak of wobble. looking back it was over from then onwards (as a scene, not as individual tracks or dj sets) - I blame middle class purists like blackdown who couldn't tolerate sharons n tracy's defiling their sacred warwick university template and hence we had to get nu metal wankers like korn of all people upholding that legacy - that's when it was touch and go for me and when i quickly hurried off (horrified) to jungle, techno and experimental electronics/free jazz, not faffing about with 130 bpm housified malarky.

    http://www.braindamageradio.com/dubs...th-february-08

    seriously though what a set. lumpen aphex twin. them basslines are so twisted and eat yer brain out.
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    Corpsey's talked about Spongebob being something of a watershed moment in the past.

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    MOP Ante Up
    Chronic 2001

    Both took commercial hiphop in a square beat direction. Before that there was usually some swing, some syncopation.
    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

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    I think it was hearing Hazyville that pulled me out of dubstep entirely.

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    luka said something a while back about hearing Wiley and Dizzee on radio in the early 2000s and feeling as though some sort of seismic shift had just taken place, the other guys doing the 'garage voice' instantly sounding old hat.

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    luka said something a while back about hearing Wiley and Dizzee on radio in the early 2000s and feeling as though some sort of seismic shift had just taken place, the other guys doing the 'garage voice' instantly sounding old hat.
    Well that was the dizzee/Asher d clash. The other thing was Riko and Wiley in '99. I just happened to tune in and record which is odd, atemporal vortex, I never listened to drum and bass then, but it was so obviously transitional, so clearly a new generation without any desire to pay lip service to the old rave pieties. It was all criminality, all postcodes, swearing. Totally unprecedented. African Devils and Plaistow soldiers on the live phone in saying suck your mum. Later on hearing pay as u go on radio and thinking what is this noise just pure mcing no breaks no let up.

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