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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    The first time I ever met baboon he spent the entire time agonising about whether or not Django Unchained was a deplorably racist film only, right at the end of the night, to provide the punchline: he hadn't watched it!

    It was hilarious!
    You are of course exaggerating massively for effect (quelle surprise), but there is also a scintilla of truth in some of this (more surprising).

    Do I really need to watch another Tarantino film to know exactly what it's going to be like? The answer is clearly no, Luka, and to suggest otherwise is absurd.

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    Bizarrely, this is also something you do often on these pages. I thought we agreed that the idea of having to watch something to have a vociferous opinion on it is bullshit. Traitor.
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    moretti's distant reading applied to film.

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    not read that one Leo. It's terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baboon2004 View Post
    Bizarrely, this is also something you do often on these pages. I thought we agreed that the idea of having to watch something to have a vociferous opinion on it is bullshit. Traitor.
    I said it was funny! I didn't say it was a mortal sin!

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    Luka is the king of dismissing things without actually watching/reading/listening to them. (Although annoyingly he's usually STILL right.)

    Listened to a podcast earlier which pointed out that there is really no reason why this should be connected with Batman at all. There's some batman tie in stuff but on the whole you could make this movie without any of that stuff and it wouldn't change it much at all. (Except it wouldn't have made so much money.)

    Also I agree with podcast host B that DeNeiro is horribly miscast for his role.
    Αι ψυχαί οσμώνται καθ΄ Άιδην.

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    De Niro's made some odd choices in the last 20 odd years
    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    Batman is pretty boring, as a character.

    I dunno if I'm just being contrarian but Batman Vs Superman seemed VISUALLY much better than Nolan's movies.
    Zac snyder is weirdly underrated
    The DK nolan films were the dullest looking and most lumbering batman films ever made
    Batman vs superman was much more exciting

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    superman's the anthropomorphisation of america's innocence.

    the superman of the popular imagination isn't the rage-of-the-immigrant superman of the 30's. he's not the grim one who dealt with wife beaters and corrupt politicians.

    it's the superman of the 50's. having pies with ma and pa kent. a nuclear family superman with supergirl and his pet dog crypto. there's an underlying calm. it's a superman of prosperity and peace. a superpower (geopolitically, not in terms of lazer eyes and flying).

    it's what's so poignant about him now. he's something that's lost. an innocence and a calm. a domestic bliss.

    superman after watergate, vietnam, rodney king, 9/11, iraq, blm, trump, etc. can only be a bitter reminder of an ostensibly gentler, simpler time.

    all of which of course speaks to something we go through in our own lives. he was a child. the world presented to us by superman in the 50's was of childish wonderment. we've lost that and thus superman will always speak that arrested development which wishes we'd never grown up.

    the only really succesful superman stories of the last few decades have reflected this; they're either intentionally harking back to that era or they're literally killing superman.

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    the whole cuckolding dynamic between superman and clark kent is amazing.

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