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    3:07 is shocking:


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    the 90's is really a year zero for the new white psychology. craner had that brilliant thing about the 90's ushering the first bnp councillors, morrissey waving the union jack, brit pop. you have fight club and autecher too.

    'straight out of compton' was presumably the anticedent to all this. that was the point cool whiteness became untenable.

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    The Vangelis bits are the best bits of Autechre, not the arrhythmic banging dustbin lids bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    violence and velocity are only presented as abstracted. flickering far away in the distance.
    jordan peterson DESTROYS feminist snow flake.

    violence, conflict, sexual dominance all abstracted to the point where they're expressed as watching youtube clips of a middle aged bloke in a tweed jacket berating some ditsy feminist student.

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    Corpse sent me a DM saying "it's impossible to ignore the aut prefix here isn't it? Tactless to point it out perhaps but clearly the music is both hyper-analytic and meticulous in its avoidance of any emotional resonance. Offering a very complex surface and a complete absence of depth."

    I agree with corpse, this is a minefield but if we prune these observations of any value judgements it's potentially interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    'Incunabula', 'Tri Repetae', etc. say nothing.
    There's an element of forced exoticsm with this stuff imo. I think aphex is also guilty of that too, though. Albeit much funnier. He's like a modern zappa in that genius mind who has to play himself down way
    Last edited by pattycakes_; 18-09-2019 at 01:33 PM.
    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

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    the (presumably faux-)latin of it all. latin is used in law and in philosophy and so forth. again speaking to these abstractions that hang above culture. things you learn rather than absorb via social osmosis.

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    for the record i liked patty's comment before he edited it and started talking about frank zappa.

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    Ha!
    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

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    Throwing all music that evades culturalized interpretation out the window is boring and reductionist. There's a lot that art has to say outside that stratum. Also if you look for it, I'm sure there's plenty of humans-as-droning-cogs-in-the-capitalist-machine knittings of Autechre into cultural contexts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entertainment View Post
    Throwing all music that evades culturalized interpretation out the window is boring and reductionist. There's a lot that art has to say outside that stratum. Also if you look for it, I'm sure there's plenty of humans-as-droning-cogs-in-the-capitalist-machine knittings of Autechre into cultural contexts.
    This post, regardless of how accurare it might be, is middle way mollycoddling and has no place on an autechre hate thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entertainment View Post
    Throwing all music that evades culturalized interpretation out the window is boring and reductionist.
    that's arguably the crux of this thread so far.

    what does communicating culture actually give you? it gives you a gait, colours, emotions, moods, all sorts.

    the intriguing thing then for an anti-autechian to know is what is the music communicating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by entertainment View Post
    humans-as-droning-cogs-in-the-capitalist-machine.
    a very 90's white world view. fight club presents the world in this way and i wonder if autechre does too.

    hmgovernment needs to tell us about the increasing use of anti-depressants. does the music very accurately capture the feeling of anti-depressants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post

    what does communicating culture actually give you? it gives you a gait, colours, emotions, moods, all sorts.
    I would differentiate between suggesting those things by proxy of cultural allusions and communicating them directly.

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