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    Got me thinking about a quality of modern pop music that I don't think there was so much of in the past -

    I'll now struggle to describe it but it would include qualities like

    "darkness"
    atmospherics
    filtered chords, hinting at barely suppressed emotions
    minimalist drums
    big build ups, explosions of hi-hats
    "EPIC"-ness (but married to sultriness)

    I suppose this is to do with dance music merging with pop music to some extent.

    Is this a zeitgeist thing? Do people need heightened, portentuous music?

    A tune like "Happy" by Pharrell stuck out a mile, with its faux-innocence.
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    This is why Barty says travis Scott is the new meatloaf. It's also part of the strange time-lock between now and the 1980s. My mate reckons it's the result of a 30 year Saturn cycle Senescent power spasm

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    Yeah, good example - prog rap.

    Stadium rap.

    It's all tied in (in my head) with 4k cameras, super slo-mo, the perfection of CGI. (Dangerously close to dematerialisation here but it's more performative than textural.)
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    Perhaps it's also about fighting for attention - in the era where everybody can access all media all the time your song has to be EPIC to stick out
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    hans zimmer drums. orchestral tribal.


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    the popularity of superheroes at the moment speak to need for the massive-scope.

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    one aspect of dematerialisation is the narrativisation of your life.

    facebook or instagram or something does 'stories'. if you're broadcasting your life then there's the expectation it has to be broadcast-worthy, which would tempt you to make it like a fiction.

    reality tv turns ostensible everyday lives into soap opera. contest shows like the x factor build in these character arcs into the contestants.

    certain strands of therapy do this.

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    9/11, 7/7, syrian civil war, etc. make everyday cities all of a sudden (very literally) explode with excitement.


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    video games might have something to do with it. ever day people are getting home from work and school and very much engaging in high-stakes, high-energy worlds of explosions and warfare and so forth. its everyday grandiosity.


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    hans zimmer:


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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    This reminds me of this



    Gigantic chugging drums

    Widescreen. Dolby surround sound.
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    our computer/smartphone interfaces aren't situated in space; they're free floating. they're also not physically communal, you're may be speaking with people but not with them.

    reverb on the other hand is all about something situated within a space; sound reverberating off of boundaries. its also something you might associate with communal environments like churches and stadiums.

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    soundtrack music.








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    thinking of that ariana song, this might connect with that 80's pop poignance thread. it's trying to replicate the emotional potency of that era in music. given there's an emotional vacuity to this newer stuff, this bigness is a desperate- near hysterical- attempt to impose emotion into the music. it signifies emotions rather than actually evoking them.

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