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    Quote Originally Posted by mvuent View Post
    making a 48 hour opera that's impossibly (in the most literal sense) grandiose
    like when Wagner wrote a million hour long opera cycle that somehow manages to make GERMANIC MYTHOLOGY insufferably dull

    but there's like 5 absolutely sublime - in every sense of the word - minutes tucked in where he among other things invents modern ambient music 100 years before Eno


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    tbh I'm still unclear what exactly a proper tune is or isn't

    I know intuitively I'm a proper tunes person

    but like, what is a proper tune?

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    Does something extreme become a proper tune if it resonates with you and becomes a favourite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by padraig (u.s.) View Post
    but like, what is a proper tune?

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    like, are there tunes that are just proper tunes to begin with?

    but maybe other things only become proper tunes with the passage of time?

    is being a proper tune an inherent quality that does or doesn't reside within something, or can it be acquired?

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    I'm assuming it's about intent to a degree, like Parmegiani is not proper tunes because it's consciously avant garde and an exercise whereas something like Voodoo Ray is a proper tune because it's first and foremost a tune.

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    Voodoo Ray, undoubtedly, sure

    so it's a proper tune, in the sense that is both a tune, proper, and a proper tune

    but, was it always?

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    yeah exactly, it's more about intend and perceived values than formal qualities.

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    Right. I think we're on the same page now.

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    OK, that's good, intent is very good

    I always invoke intent when trying to explain my love for things 4'33" and White On White to people

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    I'm definitely on the proper tunes side, particularly when you consider that plenty of groundbreaking stuff happened by accident and as a byproduct of people making proper tunes.

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    I guess that makes sense

    but couldn't you have - often do have - cases where things become proper tunes despite and not because of the intent of their creators

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    You got any examples?

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    I don't want to dig thru a bunch of YT playlists now

    but I'm sure I could find plenty of examples of weird stuff disco and post-disco DJs repurposed as they created the concept of disco and later house

    I guess you would still be talking about intent in that case, tho of the DJ rather than the original producer

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    I'd have thought that stuff would have just been proper tunes as it's ostensibly dance music.

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