Autecher- Xylin Room
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chava
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What is it with all this fetichization of the body in supposedly opposition to AE?
Why would you need your art/music to be about the body. You're already in your body.
It's like rock n roll drummers banging harder on the drums to be assert their impostion on the world. It's pathetic. Drum machines all the way.
Still don't care much for Autechre. You need to go all in with this stuff. Like SND/Mark Fell.
Why would you need your art/music to be about the body. You're already in your body.
It's like rock n roll drummers banging harder on the drums to be assert their impostion on the world. It's pathetic. Drum machines all the way.
Still don't care much for Autechre. You need to go all in with this stuff. Like SND/Mark Fell.
luka
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Fair point.
can guarantee you are going to hate snd/marc fell even more than autechre lol. you're a romantic, ultimately.
version
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version
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Autechre feel like what I was saying re: communicating online the other day.
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it's relevant though. you probably would have hated jungle if you were 18 in 92, all those unfashionable chipmunks and surrey divas! lykra and home counties and portsmouth polluting the acid house legacy.
to go anti-body you have to dispense with the body's prime constituent, the desire to please others. this is the supreme paradox of the egotist. the more egotistical you come, the less mastery you have over your individual self, as everything is judged not in relation to ones self image but in relation to the self images you have constructed of others and that others impose on you. its a trap.
hippy. set and setting never. the bad american imported rule to psychedelics.
it's only accusatory because you want it to be. every bloody month we get 10 variations on fashion. who the fuck cares about fashion? none of us are fashionable, least of all you.
by all means express discomfort with electronic music itself as its own language, but barty has done that to an extent and noone else.
I don't dislike post-dubstep because it was made and played out by goldsmiths students, I dislike it because it was fucking dull and the music it referenced was better. if there is a good post-dubstep tune I'll still rate it. noble london culturalism is so dull. it's like lisa mckenzie gushing about 6 music whilst ranting on and on about how the bbc discriminates against the working class, that's not how this works luv.
I want to talk to you but not when you're in cringe mode trying to push a projected point onto us that is just a kneejerk anti-intellectual prejudice. like say Autechre is a shadow of Xenakis like Matt did, but you'll struggle because as mvtuant said their interviews contradict that. you can argue that they aren't aware of their own weaknesses, that is another story. but expecting two people in their late 40s to be clubbing week in week out is daft. and who says they were ever against jungle? they never did drill and bass, not like afx/mu-ziq did. and actually even if they wereagainst jungle, that's a strength, at least they didn't try and co-opt it for the idm crowd but pursued their own trajectory. they don't even fit into that scene. neither does vladislav delay or mark fell.
like, apologies for coming across as so antagonistic but I'm sick of this forum just being an endless variation on minstrellsy. we should be able to talk about the semiotics of the music without always centring its fashion. that's what the (predominantly white) woke fact mag/truants types do. hence any music made by black queer people (garnish some poverty tourism for extra measure) is automatically laudible. people become political objects for policy makers, not complex beings in and of themselves.
like, apologies for coming across as so antagonistic but I'm sick of this forum just being an endless variation on minstrellsy. we should be able to talk about the semiotics of the music without always centring its fashion. that's what the (predominantly white) woke fact mag/truants types do. hence any music made by black queer people (garnish some poverty tourism for extra measure) is automatically laudible. people become political objects for policy makers, not complex beings in and of themselves.