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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    I think it is the same. Because the disruptor doesn't reorganise. It just magically happens. At a higher attractor site. As you say this is dynamic and emergent.
    This happens at every level from the individual to the corporation to society to the geopolitical.

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    Part of me wants to like Cummings because he's so obviously a malignant self-serving little troll, but also quite good at it. He'll come to a bad end, I hope. Camille Paglia once described Foucault as appealing to "game-playing minds with unresolved malice towards society", and Cummings is exactly that.

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    The underlying motive is revenge, and who doesn't enjoy a good revenge fantasy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    disruption has become and ends in itself.

    there's an element of the banon-cummings mythology that there's not particularly an end they're after. it's not 'disrupt the system so as to implement x'. disruption for disruption's-sake.

    this fits in to luke's joker vector thing.
    I don't think that's quite it though tbh. They're not micromanagers of what emerges in place of what they destroy, but they have an opinion about it. They're just more 'directional' when it comes to that. The new conservatism is much more participatory than its previous incarnations. They make a distinction between power and control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poetix View Post
    (antiphilosophy, the Nietzschean desire to embody in one's person the force which breaks history in two).
    kinetic cognition.

    "force of personality".

    i'm sure banon talks about thoughts and ideas in terms of guns and all that.

    ben shapiro "destorys" people.

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    "You know what anarchists have always believed.... The urge to destroy is a creative urge... This is also the hallmark of capitalist thought. Enforced destruction. Old industries have to be harshly eliminated. New markets have to be forcibly claimed. Old markets have to be re-exploited. Destroy the past, make the future."

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    The disruptor is a kind of dual saviour/destroyer of the type represented by Sean Connery in Zardoz, John the Savage in Brave New World, Shevek in The Disposessed.

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    globalisation is all about removing disruption. disruption is at times an almost consciously symbolic attack on globalisation

    the lasting legacy of 9/11 to most westerners is disrupted air travel.

    the fear for manufacturers after brexit is disrupted supply chains.

    disruption at calais and the irish boarder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    globalisation is all about removing disruption. disruption is at times an almost consciously symbolic attack on globalisation

    the lasting legacy of 9/11 to most westerners is disrupted air travel.

    the fear for manufacturers after brexit is disrupted supply chains.

    disruption at calais and the irish boarder.
    Th danger of disrupting a neurotic personality in therapy. The neurosis is a system which works, after a fashion, it holds the self together.

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    just to say it for the millionth time, the rhythmic language of rap for the last few years has been about distilling the aesthetic of disruption and interruption. rap that sounds like it hasn't buffered properly and keeps stopping and spluttering .

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    The disruptor is a kind of dual saviour/destroyer of the type represented by Sean Connery in Zardoz, John the Savage in Brave New World, Shevek in The Disposessed.
    in economics you have "creative destruction"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    just to say it for the millionth time, the rhythmic language of rap for the last few years has been about distilling the aesthetic of disruption and interruption. rap that sounds like it hasn't buffered properly and keeps stopping and spluttering .
    Glitch rap. Autechre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    in economics you have "creative destruction"
    I've just finished reading the Disposessed, a '70s sci-if novel, and realised, oh, this is an archetype..

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Glitch rap. Autechre.
    Only winding you up mate

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