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    https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n19/john-l...nt-number-nine

    "‘Digitalisation has brought the Chinese people the historic opportunity of the millennium,’ the plan says. What does that mean? It means that China feels that it fell behind the West by missing out on the industrial revolution, and intends not to repeat the mistake with this coming wave of technological change. When it comes to AI the party really, really isn’t messing around. ‘The widespread use of AI in education, medical care, pensions, environmental protection, urban operations, judicial services and other fields will greatly improve the level of precision in public services, comprehensively enhancing the people’s quality of life.’ Oh, and by the way: ‘AI technologies can accurately sense, forecast, and provide early warning of major situations for infrastructure facilities and social security operations; grasp group cognition and psychological changes in a timely manner … which will significantly elevate the capability and level of social governance, playing an irreplaceable role in effectively maintaining social stability.’ This is as pure a dream of a totalitarian state as there has ever been – a future in which the state knows everything and anticipates everything, acting on its citizens’ needs before the citizen is aware of having them. It is an autocratic fantasy, a posthumanist dream, hiding in the plain sight of a Chinese government white paper."
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    "a street crossing in Fujian where jaywalkers are identified and have their face, name and address appear on a video screen beside the road; a school in Hangzhou where facial recognition technology monitors students to see when they are bored or distracted (the scanners are also used to pay for food and borrow books from the library); a state surveillance network, Skynet (yes, that’s the same as the evil computer system in the Terminator movie)..."
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    Also, the social credit system they have there sounds exactly like that episode of Black Mirror
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    The social credit thing is a lot more nuanced/messier than it's often made out to be and so not quite as dystopian, at least for the moment. As time goes on and with everything else the CCP is aiming for then maybe it will get there eventually.

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    A machine is probably more reliable than a human, but the difference in engagement and lack of flexibility can make them much more frightening. A machine treats humans like they're just another machine.

    Convenience really does seem to trump everything.

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    In cities under siege Stephen Graham says a lot of this stuff was pioneered in Fallujah and in the occupied territories and the Israeli occupied territories, that these sites became laboratories for precisely this kind of population control.

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    Apparently the Chinese get hold of a lot of military and security tech - presumably including surveillance tech - from America via Israel, which likes to reverse-engineer the stuff they get from the USA as military aid and sell it on to the Chinese state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    Apparently the Chinese get hold of a lot of military and security tech - presumably including surveillance tech - from America via Israel, which likes to reverse-engineer the stuff they get from the USA as military aid and sell it on to the Chinese state.
    Was it you who said that on here before? Someone did. It would make sense if it was you given your weapon research background. It's a great fact. One of those facts which reminds you that the world is far weirder and more complicated than we think

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Was it you who said that on here before? Someone did. It would make sense if it was you given your weapon research background. It's a great fact. One of those facts which reminds you that the world is far weirder and more complicated than we think
    I think I did mention it a couple of years ago. There's also a 'special relationship' between the USA and Israel which is rather one-sided, it would seem.
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