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    following on from the drukqs screwed thread - what records do you think sound better at the wrong speed or which ones did you play and enjoy at the wrong speed unaware of what speed they were pressed at?

    i listened to and LOVED Autechre's Anvil Vapre EP at 33 and was rather shocked and dissappointed when, a few years later, i heard a CD of it.

    similarly i loved Pole 2 (pressed at 45 unlike the other Pole LP's) at 33 and only realised i had been listening to it "wrong" when i saw him live a few months after the record came out.

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    Not better, but Naked City's Torture Garden is just as good at 33 as it is at the pressed 45.

    All of Amit's drum+bass stuff make for great dubstep at 33. Same for a lot of the stuff that came out on the Future Talk label in the late 90s (although it's probably more of a broken beat sound).

    Also, it was often unclear to me whether the Butthole Surfers intended a lot of their output to be at 33 or 45.

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    melt banana records always really confused me. is this supposed to be this high pitched and fast? .. ohh i get it..


    also, ovalprocess is nice at both speeds... still havent worked that one out

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    There was a local band around here called Organz that consisted of three bassists, a singer, and a drummer. Their record sounded much better at 33rpm than 45, which made their hardcore antics more stoner and sludgy. Oddly enough, they broke up and one of them formed a band similar to Sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada J Soup

    Also, it was often unclear to me whether the Butthole Surfers intended a lot of their output to be at 33 or 45.
    Should not be listened at 69 rpm?

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    on a vaguely related note, a few of my friends entered a band competition with a one off joke band called Deep Bass Nine.. 9 bass guitarists, singing songs about how awesome space is (space is ace! i believe).. actually sounded very very good.

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    i've done some vaguely ambient/drone Djing recently and have used a Slowdive 'Avalon' EP, wacked down to 33 and further on the pitch fader, 'slower' the better, sounds really good.

    Slowdive are one of those bands that don't deserve volumes of respect but they did do something extraordinary on a few tracks, i've never found anything quite like their stoner/noise/harmonious thing elsewhere.

    I've a few electro tracks where i just can't decide, 33 or 45, you really can't tell what the producers meant.
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    "Slow" by MBV, of course.

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    used to enjoy listening to parnoid by black sabbath really slow - seems there were alot of people out there that did really in the event of sunn0)))) etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jed_
    following on from the drukqs screwed thread - what records do you think sound better at the wrong speed or which ones did you play and enjoy at the wrong speed unaware of what speed they were pressed at?

    i listened to and LOVED Autechre's Anvil Vapre EP at 33 and was rather shocked and dissappointed when, a few years later, i heard a CD of it.

    similarly i loved Pole 2 (pressed at 45 unlike the other Pole LP's) at 33 and only realised i had been listening to it "wrong" when i saw him live a few months after the record came out.
    Spot on with Anvil Vapre. I had a similar experience with the 2 Envave Eps, and I still cant get used to them a the right speed. Another good one is on by Aphex, and, as you mentioned, a lot of the Pole stuff sounds great at both speeds. I used to play old Hidden Agenda and No U-turn tunes out at 33 during that whole 'Nu-breaks' thing a few years back. That seemed to work as well... In fact anything relatively fast (above 150 bpm) is worth trying at 33.

    You ocassionally get tunes pressed at 33 that work at 45 too. I have a mix with 'Only Buggin' by Whistle, and some 136bpm late 90s electro tune that works really well - but you're wandering into chipmunk territory there...


    BTW - has anyone ever made a record that was deliberately meant to be played at both speeds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid
    BTW - has anyone ever made a record that was deliberately meant to be played at both speeds?
    first two depth charge eps

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    Really!? you mean 'Depth Charge - Han do ji' and 'Bounty Killers'? Dont they both have fairly chunky vocal samples?

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    Miles Davis' Live At the Philharmonic Hall on 45. I didn't realize it was on 45 for about 10 minutes and by then I was enjoying it too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid
    Really!? you mean 'Depth Charge - Han do ji' and 'Bounty Killers'? Dont they both have fairly chunky vocal samples?
    thems the ones. i'm sure they were, been a loooong time since i heard them, but when they came out people i knew were quite hyped by the 33/45 thing.

    there are others that were meant to be played at both, but i can't remember them- generally obscure-ish electronica stuff


    one song off squarepusher's vic acid ep is absolutely blinding slowed down

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt b
    one song off squarepusher's vic acid ep is absolutely blinding slowed down
    Yeah one of his singles on that Ambient Soho label was 33/45.

    Also some noise people like NON.

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