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    tim expects them to be american or something like hes completely cut off from the normal experience of london life. theres two moments that stick in my mind. one is tim trying to cuss kano for wearing 'tight' jeans and kano patiently explaining that that's how people in London dress, fitted things, smart, this would have been early '00s i suppose, but pre-skinny jeans.
    the other one was tim trying to browbeat trim into saying he was his favourite whiteboy and trim explaining that he has a lot of white mates and tim is not his favourite whiteboy.
    "i grew up on the isle of dogs. it's a predominantly white area"
    that disconnct between reality of peoples lives and tims fantasies always made for good comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by continuum View Post
    How old is he now? Can he still use the "I'm a big man but I'm not thirty" bars??
    He was still using them at the big BBK show at Finsbury Park a few years ago. Mind you it was a bit of a showcase with everyone on stage doing their hits.

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    i love westwood both as a comedy figure and as an advocate of music but i always wonder how rappers feel when this (now pensionable) white english guy is talking about getting turnt up in the club etc.

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    he looks great with his new stubble beard tbf

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    i'm assuming he saw Eminem do it and followed his lead

    except it makes Eminem look like a botoxed tramp

    westwood is a funny/interesting one to follow on IG - he seems to eat solitary meals in a restaurant a lot

    did you see the westwood/giggs interview where westwood is clearly hungover as fuck?

    edit: here it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    he looks great with his new stubble beard tbf
    for a 60 year old he looks pretty damn good period

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    Quote Originally Posted by CORP$EY View Post
    i love westwood both as a comedy figure and as an advocate of music but i always wonder how rappers feel when this (now pensionable) white english guy is talking about getting turnt up in the club etc.
    I think the younger generation are just amazed with Westwood, Americans don't get it besides Tyler the Creator & them.

    See Cardi on the interview with him? Utter dismay.

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    I think it helps that he's about eight feet tall - he's literally larger than life.

    Also helps that's he's genuinely funny - you can see people warming to him in spite of his absurdity



    classic Westwood interview where he takes the piss out of Mos Def

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    I see you missed the last two years

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    Saw Wiley down Brixton Academy ting was ok alot of the set list was mostly geared towards his recent stuff with one or two commercial tracks, no big guests but he brought Mez and Cadell out who im cool with (has anybody here besides Crowley heard L.O.N.D.O.N? i think its great)

    certain point he tried to bring in youngers out who it was clear the crowd were not feeling and at a certain point it stopped kinda early cause he said he got a stitch

    Openers were Sneakbo and Ms Banks, both alright imo. heard alot of trap being intersperesed in Rude Kids set at the start

    between the snow and the crowd the whiteness levels were HIGH

    i have to ask, did any of you man see Jammers interview on Radar? some good points but i find it HILARIOUS that Jammer of all people is talking about "ballet dancers" in the scene and supporting the culture and whatever talking about shutting down the ting when history and Marcus would show otherwise than hes BEEN a conman from time,also he should just chill we know hes earning good money now its ok LOL

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    was garage rap more of a south london thing?
    pre-so solid? i dont think of it that way but i'd have to look
    at the names again. genius cru were from ilford
    i think generally it was more dispersed/not geographically specific

    everyone was mcing and everyone was mcing with 'the garage voice'

    Iím talking that sweet spot that's post-garage voice, but pre-grime. The stuff reynolds was into before he got into grime (you mightíve been out the country when it was happening). drill sounds more indebted to that kind of stuff than to grime, so was wondered if it was a south thing. the flows donít have the east london cadence, south londonís less racially integrated so you donít have the cockney influence. musically more derivative too, the kind of garage rap iím talking about is very close to being uk dancehall, whereas grime wasnít derivative at all. like you were saying about all the sound systems coming from south.
    i was out the country yeah. im pretty sure reynolds has a lot of stuff about this online. i remember i had to turn to it when i was trying to fill in gaps sort of thing. i'll have a look.
    funny in retrospect to see these lot being talked about as late as 2003:

    "So Solid Crew, K2 Family, Pay As U Go Kartel, GK Allstars, Dem Lott, Horra Squad, Nasty Crew"
    like always you have the future and the past happening at the
    same time. genius cru at the same time as more fire.
    if you look at early grime mixes you can see
    the same confusion. not really being able to identify
    the new, not being able to distinguish it from the old.
    a similar thing happens with you lot who lived through hardcore and jungle; you perceive a much wider grey area than i do looking back retrospectively. pay as u go is a completely different world from roll deep for me, maybe didnít feel that way at the time.
    time barrier
    yeah well the grey area i think is cos they were literally happening
    simultaneously, you know, in clock time. but in past/future time
    the difference is obvious! the future doesn't move evenly across
    everything at once like a tsunami.
    there's that current, that pushes forward but it encounters various
    resistances. you get eddies and blockages and even reversals.
    it always embodies a new set of values and that's threatening to
    anyone invested in the old values. e.g. the smoothness and
    aspirationalism of garage is wiped out by the hood and trainers of grime
    etc
    etc
    has anyone done grime as brutalist architecture?
    given the brutalist blog scene ran almost
    concurrently with the grime blog scene and
    overlapped (i tried to get owen hatherly stoned)
    you'd hope so! it is angles and planes.
    a lack of ornamentation.
    this or that
    just as an aside the 'tower' hamlets lot all seemed to come
    from the big brutalist estates but the lot from further east
    didn't i don't think. or not for the most part. titch probably
    did but otherwise a lot of small terraced houses and stuff.

    less 'glamorous' couldnt put it on the front of a 'run the roads' comp
    never let reality get in the way of somehting clever to say.

    this bloke's from a brutalist place thatís on the same road kate bush wrote wuthering heights.



    brutal
    never let reality get in the way of somehting clever to say.

    related to

    the boring answer is always the wrong answer
    you have to say something wrong to say somehting true
    this tune is much more hype isnt it.
    doesnt sound sedated
    cos of the architecture
    cos of tesco carpark in catford according to the comment!
    the further east you get from tulse hill the livelier it gets.

    grove park:




    bit difficult to say youíre a roadman if you come from grove park, but there you go.
    deep south london geography
    Psychogeography

    Iím like that bloke who writes books about walking round the m25 and gets reviewed in the guardian.

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    south london probably has the only space outisde the panopticon now anyway
    you cant do that in east anymore it's all yuppies on racing bikes and australians
    having picnics with their 200 closest personal friends.

    all the places i used to light bonfires and smoke weed are yuppie playpens its mad
    Tottenham too, but Tottenhamís essentially south London.

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    if tottenham is south london then hackney is too tbh
    tottenham-brixton hackney-peckham
    hackney was never considered part of the east end traditionally
    and then they went and proved it by not having one single grime
    artist but they did have a foundational road rap crew.

    big settled west indian populations, not many asians. that's
    basically the connection with south.
    tottenham had grime but it was awful. they also
    had north star and my favourite rapper young spray.
    A lot of Bethnal greenís still real London; east London though, not south

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    npk and ofb are big drill acts from tottenham. though headie oneís trying to be the bbk of drill.
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