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    I make it a point to pass Frúdmanís Chemist shop and 7 Eccles st on my commute. Bloomsday everyday, except with more phlegm.

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    It won't. Just read it. Get on with it. Stop making excuses. Corpsey will help you. It's an old maids book club. I'll make a Victoria sponge.

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    I am mostly reading boring psychotherapy papers at the moment, though as part of this I've deviated into reading Nick Totton's Embodied Relating which is mind blowingly good if a bit of a specialist audience thing, like most counselling books. A big shame because it's really amazing - a super deep treatise on embodiment that incorporates all the latest research. Amazing life affirming stuff - for me anyway. Shame it's in the counselling ghetto. And I've nearly finished Ola Raknes' Wilhelm Reich & Orgonomy, a Pelican paperback by Reich's longest standing European student. It is pretty great though perhaps a bit too much orgone for one sitting. I heard a quote yesterday which ran something like "only tell people one unbelievable thing at a time" and that'd be germane here. It's often like that when one strays into the further reaches of Reich's work.

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    What does embodied relating mean?

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    it's basically a take on relational counselling & psychotherapy - i.e. being very aware of the relationship as an area where therapeutic content might play out - but which factors in the body as part of this.

    He has some great arguments that what's normally presented as simply transference or whatever is actually felt as embodied at first and then disowned in "normal" heady/talk therapy counselling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    If you're on about the first chapter, I've read it.
    All of it? It's about 50 pages. How is that possible?

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    The traditional Reichian model would be an expert therapist does something to a passive client which obviously has all sort of problems, much as I've benefitted from that type of work. Working like this excludes the relational dynamics (all the rage, sadness, dependency, guilt etc that both of you might feel working together). The model he's proposing is more of a two way street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    Oh wait, I thought the full chapter was 23 pages. My copy has odd formatting and makes it look like the end of the chapter.
    Give us the full report of how you got on please

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    Yes sorry forgot you are an 'ideas' reader as opposed to a language reader

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    There are plenty of ideas there but you would have to look them up as secondary reading as with pynchon. That's fun actually im not deriding it

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    Yeah I get it now. Why not read them together?

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    If someone points out and explains an idea to me I csn go oh right, that's clever isn't it, but left to my own devices I'll do my best to ignore them

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    As far as I'm aware, all you'll really get from the Odyssey is that Stephen is Telemachus, living in a "palace" occupied by "usurpers". (Haines represents England, the great usurper of Irish rule.) His unforeseen mission in Ulysses will be to find a surrogate father (Bloom), as Telemachus's mission will be to find Odysseus and bring him home to destroy the suitors to his wife. (Bloom's wife is adulterous.)

    There are some references to Homer in that chapter (the winedark sea).

    There are differing views on how important the Homeric parallel is to Ulysses. Nabokov said that Joyce told him he wished the Homeric index had never been released, because it wasn't really all that important. OTOH, of course, it is CALLED "Ulysses"!

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    Well there's as many ideas in uyleses as there are in gravitys rainbow if you want to look for them. Its your kinda book. Robert Anton Wilson is a good guide if you want to foreground that stuff and ignore the merely literary

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    My method for reading it, (or so I hope), will be to read it through, resigned to not understanding a lot of it, hopefully to enjoy it in spite of this ignorance, and to then revisit each section with some annotations to help me...

    But let's say you take the Proteus section - which is Stephen's inner monologue. If you were to be able to read another person's thoughts, you'd not understand much of what they were thinking about. Especially if they were the sort of muddleheaded intellectual/aesthete that Stephen is supposed to be. In other words, while you can find out what is going on by consulting academic notes, you're not really necessarily SUPPOSED to understand it.

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