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    Well there's as many ideas in uyleses as there are in gravitys rainbow if you want to look for them. Its your kinda book. Robert Anton Wilson is a good guide if you want to foreground that stuff and ignore the merely literary

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    My method for reading it, (or so I hope), will be to read it through, resigned to not understanding a lot of it, hopefully to enjoy it in spite of this ignorance, and to then revisit each section with some annotations to help me...

    But let's say you take the Proteus section - which is Stephen's inner monologue. If you were to be able to read another person's thoughts, you'd not understand much of what they were thinking about. Especially if they were the sort of muddleheaded intellectual/aesthete that Stephen is supposed to be. In other words, while you can find out what is going on by consulting academic notes, you're not really necessarily SUPPOSED to understand it.

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    I can't remember this proteus bit. How does it start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    I can't remember this proteus bit. How does it start?
    Ineluctable modality of the visible.

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    I don't think any copy does.

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    Yeah joyces thing of how the sections correlate to episodes in the odyssesy

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    Why didnt pynchon explain in the text that Tyrone Slothrop is an anagram of sloth and entropy or whatever you said it was? Cos he was being a smartarse and didn't want to spell it out. It spoils the game

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    On a Ulysses related note, i just read this
    https://www.henninghamfamilypress.co...-chris-mccabe/

    you need to know your Joyce, but if you do it's very enjoyable.

    Anybody read any Murnane? i have just started to get into him - I would have thought he might appeal to a few on here. https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ralian-letters

    Also reading Murmur by Will Eaves - a fictionalised account of Turing's life which i'm really enjoying http://www.cbeditions.com/eaves3.html

    Been reading lots of short story collections - Wendy Erskine, Samanta Schweblin, Grace Paley.

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    Turns out, as part of my new job Im going to be attending all of the Joyce summer school events this year. Just met with the country's leading Joycean academic.

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    Reading "Hades" today (the funeral attended by Bloom and Stephen's father). Bloom's thoughts in the graveyard - ' Who passed away. Who departed this life. As if they did it of their own accord. Got the shove, all of them'. These are soliloquies, spoken by the characters to themselves, as in Shakespeare. (Bloom the materialist reminds me of Falstaff, without the cravenness. Stephen obviously like Hamlet, the self-torturing intellectual.)

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    Course it's just occurred that Bloom is also the gravedigger in 'Hamlet' in this scene.

    As a matter of fact this has reminded me that Hades is a good bit in The Odyssey.

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    I'm sad because these stream of consciousness bits are so fantastic and I know pretty soon the books going to be swamped in parody. I say pretty soon, it might be a few hundred pages yet. It's one of those obvious things about Ulysses that I've always read but it is amazing how he made an epic out of one day in the life of two men and a woman. (And a city, and a universe.)

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    Doin' the Lambeth Warp New: DISSENSUS - THE NOVEL - PM me your email address and I'll add you

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