nochexxx

harco pronting
btw your film reviews are great Rich! hope someone, sees sense and hires you to write for Empire or whatever film magazines are about these days.

Last House on Dead End Street is decent, i love it cos everyone looks so moribund.

probably cos of this

"Watkins said he was high on amphetamines while making the film. He also said only about $800 was spent making the film, while the remaining $3,000 budgeted was used to buy drugs. [2]"
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Thanks a lot man - glad you enjoyed. I can't really say that I was that pleased with them to be honest but it was kinda good practice for something maybe.

"Watkins said he was high on amphetamines while making the film. He also said only about $800 was spent making the film, while the remaining $3,000 budgeted was used to buy drugs."
Ha ha - great!
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Martyrs was crap. The ending was pretty unsettling but, like most horror films these days, it just bludgeons you over the head with ott gore strung together by a ropey plot.

Srpski Film was alright. It shot itself in the foot a bit if it was meant to have any underlying message.

Srpski Film = The Aristocrats.

On the mark re Srpski Film, but Martyrs was not crap. The first half hour was truly incredible.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
tbf, an Eastenders omnibus would have been less irritating to watch. each inch of precious film stock, wasted on the same vacuous point (i don't remember what it was excatly, it's been more than a long while since ..........), added to which, the overly dramatic music, reinforced everything i hated about the films tropes. i felt violated, as if an annoying nanny insisted on patting me down every second with ultra wet baby-wipes.

requiem is a great film. it's trying overly hard to deny that.
 

BSquires

Well-known member
Never seen Cannibal Holocaust or the other one, Cannibal Ferox is it?

One of the creepiest and most disturbing films I've ever seen is Through the Looking Glass

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The difference between Cannibal Holocaust - which is, as described, very nasty but also pointed and angry and also possibly hypocritically - and Cannibal Ferox is quite marked for ostensibly similar films... Ferox is more fun I think I would say but far less powerful or disturbing... Holocaust is also vastly superior to The Blair Witch Project which I didn't like at all...

Not seen any porn-art but you did make be think of In A Glass Cage which is something to behold!
 

nochexxx

harco pronting
I Spit On Your Grave was both nasty and amazing, thanks, to whoever recommended it. pleased to find Will Self grace the big screen.
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wonk_vitesse

radio eros
Recommended films, well 2 very different ones of late:

'Enter the void', audacious near death psychedelic trip, worth it for the murder scene alone,

'Another Year' by Mike Leigh, one of his finest, grim as hell but well worth the journey.
 

nochexxx

harco pronting
Another Japanese one for you Craner - Tokyo Decadence. I remember thinking that this was really good although it sis particularly dark and sleazy. I can't imagine that you will like it at all...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105622/

what a movie, near perfect i thought. the closing cut was more than a bit harsh, but other than that i have nothing bad to say about it. had me enthrawlled 97 percent of the time. first time i've heard the word 'cuntcisely' - excuse the pun but that whole scene cracked me up.

watching it has compelled me to set aside time to watch Celine and Julie Go Boating, this time i'll watch it sober and not pass out.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"On the mark re Srpski Film, but Martyrs was not crap. The first half hour was truly incredible."
I started watching A Serbian Film on Saturday but frustratingly had to leave with half an hour to go - which was a shame 'cause so far I'd found it to be witty, well-shot and sleazy with snappy dialogue. I guess all the real bad stuff happens at the end though I think so I'll have to reserve judgment until I've seen the rest.
You're right, Martyrs is not totally crap, the first scene is good and it's genuinely shocking when **SPOILER** the guy opens the door only to have his head blown off with a shotgun **SPOILER ENDS** but I did feel that the second half was dull and the ending really weak. It's definitely way ahead of shite such as Hostel though.

"requiem is a great film. it's trying overly hard to deny that."
Nah, it's a mess. I've rarely been so angered and disappointed by a film.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"what a movie, near perfect i thought. the closing cut was more than a bit harsh, but other than that i have nothing bad to say about it. had me enthrawlled 97 percent of the time. first time i've heard the word 'cuntcisely' - excuse the pun but that whole scene cracked me up.
watching it has compelled me to set aside time to watch Celine and Julie Go Boating, this time i'll watch it sober and not pass out."
Glad to hear it although I wouldn't necessarily think of the one film leading to the other.
 

nochexxx

harco pronting
earlier i was trying to figure out why it reminded me of C&JGB. i think it has something to do with the last section in TD, whereby she walks (for what seems like ages) to find her famous ex's house and ends up in the park with all those artists. it all goes a bit surreal like C&JGB.
IIRC, the bits i remember (before falling a sleep during C&JGB) were lots of unedited walking scenes and isn't there an abstract bit with some kinda street artist?
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I started watching A Serbian Film on Saturday but frustratingly had to leave with half an hour to go - which was a shame 'cause so far I'd found it to be witty, well-shot and sleazy with snappy dialogue. I guess all the real bad stuff happens at the end though I think so I'll have to reserve judgment until I've seen the rest.
You're right, Martyrs is not totally crap, the first scene is good and it's genuinely shocking when **SPOILER** the guy opens the door only to have his head blown off with a shotgun **SPOILER ENDS** but I did feel that the second half was dull and the ending really weak. It's definitely way ahead of shite such as Hostel though.

Nah, it's a mess. I've rarely been so angered and disappointed by a film.

Hmm, I'm really not sure about Srpski Film - it was pure torture porn imo (and a lot happens in the last half hour), though you're right, the script/dialogue wasn't bad at all.

The first half of Martyrs was absolutely brilliant I thought, for visceral shocks. It's a while since I've seen it though, so I can't recall the detail. Ending was indeed weak, and I did feel shortchanged by that given the quality of the first half - it was that whole French science fiction thing that I can't get behind at all, because it's rubbish (see the works of, urgh, Jeunet). God yes, a different universe to Hostel, which may be the worst film I've ever seen.

What angered you about Requiem for a Dream? I suppose I can see how someone might dislike it for being manipulative, but so many of the other films recently mentioned are as well.

I watched most of I Spit on Your Grave (original) at the weekend. I'm not convinced - the idea is of course an interesting one, though hardly out of leftfield, and next to, say, Last House on the Left it looks pretty indistinguished. Nothing particularly wrong with it, but once you know the story (and doesnt' everyone before watching it?) there's little else there. Acting is atrocious etc etc
 

sufi

lala
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herzog - land of silence and darkness ....
unreservedly recommendable
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typically sadistic herzog ... taking the deaf-blind people round the cactus house.....
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"Hmm, I'm really not sure about Srpski Film - it was pure torture porn imo (and a lot happens in the last half hour), though you're right, the script/dialogue wasn't bad at all."
OK, maybe we're not too far away from each other on that one.
Interesting this phrase "torture porn" - I always take it to mean that a torture porn film stands to a normal violent action or horror film as a pornographic film stands to a plot driven erotic film - that is to say that the porn element of the phrase "torture porn" denotes the fact that the torture is gratuitous and is basically the whole reason for watching the film, it doesn't mean that there is necessarily a sexual element to the torture. This becomes confused because a lot of the time the violence is sexual and this is very much the case in Srpski Film.

"What angered you about Requiem for a Dream? I suppose I can see how someone might dislike it for being manipulative, but so many of the other films recently mentioned are as well."
I think I was angered by the transparency of the attempted manipulation. I thought it was done so hamfistedly that I could almost feel the director sitting there telling me what to think. I mean, I guess virtually all films are manipulative up to a point but they should at least do it well.

"I watched most of I Spit on Your Grave (original) at the weekend. I'm not convinced - the idea is of course an interesting one, though hardly out of leftfield, and next to, say, Last House on the Left it looks pretty indistinguished. Nothing particularly wrong with it, but once you know the story (and doesnt' everyone before watching it?) there's little else there. Acting is atrocious etc etc"
I guess I liked the rawness which is strange in itself becuase that is usually a term that is intended to mean that it seems somehow realler whereas rawness in acting is generally bad acting which makes the film seem less real. Maybe its strength was in that it was a very simple and primitive film which was able to create a world in which it was possible to believe that that was the way people acted.
 

ether

Well-known member
watched 'winters bone' the other-day. - made me think about how rarely the world of the American working class is seen on film. a bleak, lean film with no sentimentality which unfolds like a thriller. made me go out and buy the book immediately.
 

nochexxx

harco pronting
I watched most of I Spit on Your Grave (original) at the weekend. I'm not convinced - the idea is of course an interesting one, though hardly out of leftfield, and next to, say, Last House on the Left it looks pretty indistinguished. Nothing particularly wrong with it, but once you know the story (and doesnt' everyone before watching it?) there's little else there. Acting is atrocious etc etc

the bit where he gets his chap lopped of in the bath is immense, fine directing leads to good acting, something as simple as a delayed response to such horror is always missed out. it's the fine details that make a film like this great, and i do find it somewhat annoying, cos these tropes should be painfully obvious to any director, yet, they usually go amiss ,like common sense lost on Apprentice candidates. basic camera shots with little editing is another thing lost on the majority of modern films - another thing this film has in abundance. i don't need sensory overload, especially when it it's a case of filming a person simply walking from a to b. i also like the films economy.
 
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