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    Never knew this either!

    Originally Lucifer, "bringer of light," his name in heaven is changed to Satan, "enemy" or "adversary."

    Wondering if there's a biblical precedent for nicking all the old Gods (e.g. the Titans) for Christianity and claiming them as false idols. If not, it's a great bit of cheek from Milton, able to include all that heathen classicism, condemning it while singing about it!

    If so, then shut my big fat mouth

    *edit: strikes me that Dante does this in 'Inferno', where he has Socrates et al living in some sort of castle just outside of hell - not to mention Virgil!
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    Luke /ˈluːk/ is a male given name, and less commonly, a surname.

    The name Luke is the English form of the Latin name Lucas. It is derived from the Latin name Lucius, and it either means "the great Lucius", or it is a shortened form of the Latin name. Lucius means "the bright one" or "the one born at dawn".[1][2]

    Is Barty a synonym for Satan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CORP$EY View Post
    Luke /ˈluːk/ is a male given name, and less commonly, a surname.

    The name Luke is the English form of the Latin name Lucas. It is derived from the Latin name Lucius, and it either means "the great Lucius", or it is a shortened form of the Latin name. Lucius means "the bright one" or "the one born at dawn".[1][2]

    Is Barty a synonym for Satan?
    Luke as Lucifer synonym. that's great. made my day!

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    To be no more; sad cure; for who would loose,
    Though full of pain, this intellectual being,
    Those thoughts that wander through Eternity,
    To perish rather, swallowd up and lost
    In the wide womb of uncreated night, [ 150 ]
    Devoid of sense and motion?


    Me, standing on my chair, chanting 'A-go Belial! A-go Belial! It's ya birthday!'

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    barty, son of luka



    mia farrow playing cwbrn-city

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    I was wrong - it REALLY gets going when Satan flies off and has to get past sin and death and then Chaos the elderly king of the shrinking abyss

    Starting already to get an inkling of Milton's brilliance - the intensely visual (often surreal and even laughable) and schematic/symbolic nature of his imagined hell/heaven and earth (hanging like a "golden pendant")

    Sidenote: "house of pain" is a phrase occurring here which can only mean that Everlast is of Milton's party and doesn't know it? BETTER TO JUMP UP IN HELL THAN EAT A PIG IN HEAVEN

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    Ah what a shame that bastard God has turned up

    And his bloody drip of a son too

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    One of the best lines so far

    Rocks, Caves, Lakes, Fens, Bogs, Dens, and shades of death

    *Gunshots* *airhorns*

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    You can sort of see the germs of Lovecraft etc al in Milton's arduously emphatic style

    "Where all life dies, death lives, and nature breeds,
    Perverse, all monstrous, all prodigious things,
    Abominable, unutterable, and worse
    Than Fables yet have feign'd, or fear conceiv'd,
    Gorgons and Hydras, and Chimeras dire."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    One of the best lines so far

    Rocks, Caves, Lakes, Fens, Bogs, Dens, and shades of death

    *Gunshots* *airhorns*
    have you got to "Embryos, and idiots, eremites, and friars" yet\?

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    Spoiler alert!

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    I really love Milton's evocation of the chaotic abyssal region, and in part I think because he's "doing a God" by bringing order (mathematical order no less) to chaos himself. Also that Satan almost fucks it right at the start but chance (which reigns with a capital C in the abyss) intervenes and propels him back up again like buzz light-year bouncing on the ball.

    I can tell this thing is working for me because I'm having to stop myself unconsciously "doing a Milton", obdurately impudently aping his Heroic adjectives.

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    At last his Sail-broad Vannes
    He spreads for flight, and in the surging smoak
    Uplifted spurns the ground, thence many a League
    As in a cloudy Chair ascending rides [ 930 ]
    Audacious, but that seat soon failing, meets
    A vast vacuitie: all unawares
    Fluttring his pennons vain plumb down he drops
    Ten thousand fadom deep, and to this hour
    Down had been falling, had not by ill chance [ 935 ]
    The strong rebuff of som tumultuous cloud
    Instinct with Fire and Nitre hurried him
    As many miles aloft...

    Landing square on the firmament the fiend
    Opes his eyes and durst proudly proclaim
    To the doubting Cowboy Woody
    'CAN FLY!'

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    There is a predictable but palpable relief when Milton leaves the drearily joyful heavens and returns to Satan again

    Are there parallels to this in other books/movies/shows? Sure there must be. And what is it that's so tedious about the virtuous and happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    And what is it that's so tedious about the virtuous and happy?
    When God is praising Jesus for being such a chip off the old block it's like reading an Oscars acceptance speech

    If God had started slagging off Jesus it would have been compulsive reading

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