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    Sufi, I've replied in a different thread to keep this one from getting derailed any further.

    The gist is, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how I've misrepresented the student's words, and that anyone who is serious about reducing racial inequality in the scientific establishment, or generally for that matter, should be aghast at this rather than defending it.
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    As a counterfactual: sufi and baboon, what would your reaction be to a white guy from, say, Norway claiming that he could strike someone dead by carving runes on a stick and burying it? I mean, would you have a reaction other than "lol, who is this attention-seeking dickhead" or "poor man, I hope he gets the help he clearly needs"?

    Yes, I know white Norwegians are not oppressed victims of colonialism, obviously. That's not the point. Now, what about that stick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    As a counterfactual: sufi and baboon, what would your reaction be to a white guy from, say, Norway claiming that he could strike someone dead by carving runes on a stick and burying it? I mean, would you have a reaction other than "lol, who is this attention-seeking dickhead" or "poor man, I hope he gets the help he clearly needs"?

    Yes, I know white Norwegians are not oppressed victims of colonialism, obviously. That's not the point. Now, what about that stick?
    at least two white men on this forum were/are practicing magicians

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    But that IS the point, near enough. I can only repeat what I said above. Context is everything when seeking to understand what someone says, and what layers of meaning it might contain. Literal meaning is far from the only truth.

    This is far from an equivalent example, but it's the best I can come up with for now that isn't also to do with Western imperialism: I have met lots of people who grew up in the ex-Soviet Union or its satellite states, who completely rubbish socialism in all its forms as a ridiculous idea. I don't take this as (necessarily) meaning that they actually think socialism is total shit (and in fact when talking to many of those people, it is clear that their ideas are very left-wing), but that their lives and those of their families were affected horribly by other people's destructive usages of the concepts of socialism and communism. Political and pragmatic attitudes diverge.
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    this is alex jones
    In 1999 I traveled to Oakland California to cover the Marine Corps execution of Operation Urban Warrior. Thousands of Marines opnely trained to biometrically scan American citizens, seperate the men, women and children in a concentration camp environment, and conduct interrogations. Video in my film, Police State 2000 shows Marine Corps officers questioning role-players who were posing as American resistance fighters. Loudspeakers informed the population of the mock camp filled with hundreds of role-players, that if they tried to escape or resist they would be killed.

    Now the public consciousness is so seared that an NBC reporter can just nonchalantly talk about an instant death penalty for anyone that doesn't have their biometric card in order or that strays off pre-determined paths on their way to authorized destinations. The Nazis did the same thing in the Polish ghettos. This is total seige, it is the highest expression of pure martial law. ID cards are now being issued across Iraq, the entire country and its 23 million inhabitants are simply being straight-jacketed so the Globalists can continue the oldest form of total war - seige - upon them.
    there's a book, by an academic, not alex jones, called cities under siege
    https://libcom.org/files/Graham,%20S...Urbanism_0.pdf
    i recommend it. it talks about how palestine and fallujah were used as laboratories for new military and surveillance tech and tactics. the author was then blasted with mind control rays which made him scratch 'pointless' into the paintwork of other peoples mercedes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    As a counterfactual: sufi and baboon, what would your reaction be to a white guy from, say, Norway claiming that he could strike someone dead by carving runes on a stick and burying it? I mean, would you have a reaction other than "lol, who is this attention-seeking dickhead" or "poor man, I hope he gets the help he clearly needs"?

    Yes, I know white Norwegians are not oppressed victims of colonialism, obviously. That's not the point. Now, what about that stick?
    you missed the point again, whilst being patronising and talking down mentalists and wiccans

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    at least two white men on this forum were/are practicing magicians
    But did either of them ever advocate tearing up the whole of science and starting again from scratch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sufi View Post
    you missed the point again, whilst being patronising and talking down mentalists and wiccans
    Let's cut to the chase. Do you think magic is real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    Let's cut to the chase. Do you think magic is real?
    And more to the point: do you think magic, whether it's real or not, is useful to improving the opportunities of poor and marginalised people?

    Do you think Chinese universities are teaching their students that "science is racist" and that it must be "decolonised"? I suspect they're probably too busy churning out thousands of highly qualified scientists, engineers, doctors, programmers and analysts every year, which is part of the reason they're leaving 'us' in the dust.
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    Depends how you define magic. The world abounds with examples of people who have used words and ideas to materially change the conditions of peoples lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    this is alex jones


    there's a book, by an academic, not alex jones, called cities under siege
    https://libcom.org/files/Graham,%20S...Urbanism_0.pdf
    i recommend it. it talks about how palestine and fallujah were used as laboratories for new military and surveillance tech and tactics. the author was then blasted with mind control rays which made him scratch 'pointless' into the paintwork of other peoples mercedes
    The first bit is demonstrably true (and mundane). In fact there was a an incident around Falluja when a bus full of people was melted and it was claimed to be the testing of a new weapon - the US military just declassified a new anti drone microwave weapon that would have precisely the kind of effects witnessed at the time.

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    i know it's true. bizarre use of the word mundane though.

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    China is a colonial power.

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    Its mundane because it happens everytime. Militaries use captive populations to experiment with weapons & tactics as a matter of course. From Northern Ireland to Algeria to Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid View Post
    Depends how you define magic. The world abounds with examples of people who have used words and ideas to materially change the conditions of peoples lives.
    That's not quite the same thing as blasting your foes with lightning bolts though, is it. Or even melting them with microwave weapons.
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