Why Conspiracy Theories?
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lanugo
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Of course not. Predictive programming (SUSTAINABILITY! THINK SMART! GLOBAL SOLUTIONS TO GLOBAL CHALLENGES!) is already well under way in order to indoctrinate us to embrace the elitists' agenda that is not at all unlikely to play out as portrayed in that post.
luka, I guess you're enjoying this stuff mostly for its entertainment value but have a look at this article that envisages a similar scenario, but with a more sophisticated narrative arc and some truly astonishing facts to back up its claims. It also features a juicy quote from former US presidential security advisor and role model globalist Zbigniew Brzeziński:
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slowtrain
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Well i mostly just thought that the idea of an energy based economy is kinda cool.
I doubt it could really work, but its a nice idea.
I like the logic of "of course you would because the elites have tricked you to make it think that is a good idea but really it isn't" - it blows up all sarcasm detectors.
I doubt it could really work, but its a nice idea.
I like the logic of "of course you would because the elites have tricked you to make it think that is a good idea but really it isn't" - it blows up all sarcasm detectors.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Aaaand once again, those who consider themselves "radical", the ones who've "seen through it all", end up ideologically in bed with the mainstream Right.
From the comments:
Or even the frothingly crazy Right, in some cases.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Ah yeah, for sure. All ties in with the way Beck* et al are always banging on about the terrible "liberal media" who apparently control the American national consciousness.
(*not that Beck, the other Beck)
luka
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heres a conspiracy theory that is subscribed to by chomsky and david harvey among other fairly mainstream voices. that deficits and debts are deliberate attempts to stop social spending. that what happened to clinton and obama is no accident. that what happened to mexico, argentina, south korea, indo, greece, ireland, is no accidnet.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
There could well be something in that. It's pretty clear that, with some exceptions, people in positions of wealth and/or power generally don't feel a great deal of empathy with the poor and powerless. They're poor because they're stupid or lazy, or in the best case because they're just unlucky and that's how the world has always been, so tough luck.
The idea that the exact amount of deficit that any given country will carry a year from now is being planned by a cabal of cigar-chomping, moustachioed villains in a secret lair somewhere is clearly ludicrous, because the world economy is far too complex to predict or manipulate to that degree. I'm sure that's not what you're talking about, though there are people who have this view of the world.
The idea that the exact amount of deficit that any given country will carry a year from now is being planned by a cabal of cigar-chomping, moustachioed villains in a secret lair somewhere is clearly ludicrous, because the world economy is far too complex to predict or manipulate to that degree. I'm sure that's not what you're talking about, though there are people who have this view of the world.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
You reckon? I dunno, I'm probably just projecting my own ignorance of economics, which is profound.
But. What about, for instance, Obama's stimulus package? It's widely held to have failed, isn't it? Or at least to have been far less successful than expected. So why is this? Did Obama himself squander the better part of a trillion $ knowing it would largely fail? Did he do it despite himself because Thee Powers That Be decreed it? Did he honestly expect it to work because his own grasp of economics isn't significantly better than mine? Or what?
But. What about, for instance, Obama's stimulus package? It's widely held to have failed, isn't it? Or at least to have been far less successful than expected. So why is this? Did Obama himself squander the better part of a trillion $ knowing it would largely fail? Did he do it despite himself because Thee Powers That Be decreed it? Did he honestly expect it to work because his own grasp of economics isn't significantly better than mine? Or what?
luka
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i do think it can be done easily. whether the current problems were engineered or not they are certainly being exploited. its almost my bedtime and im going to the mountains in the morning but i will think a bit about this and maybe quote some people and expand on the whole thing when i get the chance. hopefully before vimothy turns up and quotes loads of impenetrable figures at me and posts endless indecipherable pie charts.
Leo
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one thing i've always found curious about conspiracy theory sites/publications/thinkers is they spend all their effort exposing injustice and uncovering what they feel is the truth, yet rarely propose solutions to problems. once they've finished exposing the corruptions of world financial/monetary systems, the military industrial complex, the NWO and all that's fictitious about current democracies, it would then be interesting to learn what they feel is the right course of action and, importantly, how things would play out in their idealized world.