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    Default Can you smell impeachment?

    There is an increasing amount of chatter about grassroots efforts to impeach Bush and Cheney going on, this will probably be on the TV news networks non-stop by this evening.

    What do you guys think? Does this seem likely?

    Some links:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/11...V.gZMR9e4DW7oF

    http://www.timesrecord.com/website/m...D?Opendocument

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2930603

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/06/hagel-impeachment/

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...tionid=3510203

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    Yes and no. Allah knows they are deserving of one. But as we are heading for an election year, the dems have to make all kinds of political considerations (how weary the populace is of partisan bickering, etc.), so nothing is certain. A good summary in today’s Washington Post.

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    What's interesting about what's happening in Vermont is this is a truly grass roots effort from voters, not politicians, pressuring their leaders into acting.

    The Dems are trying to resist this for the reasons you say, but the people that vote for them seem to be on the warpath...

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    And rightly so ... !!!
    The Scooter Libby guilty verdict yesterday sure cast a baleful sad, light on henchy Cheney's Gov ego
    didn't it ?
    Aw Dick, they found blood clot in his leg , missed getting blown up in Afghanistan the other week - it's hard being VP.
    Rough out there for those who send people into war but don't ever get close to serving themselves or their relatives.
    Send DC to a Veteran's Hospital and see if he can make it out alive.
    Chips and clots, fall where they may
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    thanks for heads up. certainly exciting good news... which ever way the chips fall.

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    i would personally rather let them stay and continue to obliterate any political "legacy" they may have, take full blame for their failings as approval ratings plummet, so then when the democrats take office and improve things they'll be seen as the heroes that they'll undoubtedly be (or seem like they are, at least...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guybrush View Post
    Yes and no. Allah knows they are deserving of one. But as we are heading for an election year, the dems have to make all kinds of political considerations (how weary the populace is of partisan bickering, etc.), so nothing is certain. A good summary in today’s Washington Post.
    i like how Guybrush says "we", as if he lives here

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    It doesn't matter where you live, the results of a US election affect everyone in the world.

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    Yes please. then blair, then war crimes tribunal.
    Hasn't Cheney got a possible long prison sentence hanging over his heed?

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    The biggest threat to Blair is looking like the investigation of the cash-for-honours affair. Can't really see anything coming of it, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mms View Post
    Yes please. then blair, then war crimes tribunal.
    Hasn't Cheney got a possible long prison sentence hanging over his heed?
    In what sense is Blair guilty of war crimes? I know people here disagree with his rational for going into Iraq, but war crimes seems pretty strong.

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    The "war" was a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dHarry View Post
    The "war" was a crime.
    Is that a "war crime" literally? And can someone explain the legal basis for describing the war as a crime or point me in the direction of some writers that do? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by vimothy View Post
    Is that a "war crime" literally? And can someone explain the legal basis for describing the war as a crime or point me in the direction of some writers that do? Thanks
    By ‘war crime’ I think they mean having violated international law, or, on this instance: having violated Iraq’s national sovereignty. Hitchens brought up the arguments for it not to be considered a war crime at the opening of his debate with Galloway, linked to below.



    I can dig up his written argument too, if you want me to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guybrush View Post
    By ‘war crime’ I think they mean having violated international law, or, on this instance: having violated Iraq’s national sovereignty. Hitchens brought up the arguments for it not to be considered a war crime at the opening of his debate with Galloway, linked to below.



    I can dig up his written argument too, if you want me to.
    I'm familiar with Hitchen's argument - I think it's pretty good - and I would appreciate a link to the written version. Thanks.

    What I really want to know though is the detail - how has international law been broken, where, what are the consequences, what are the precedents, etc - anyone know any good links to any laywers working in the field writing blogs, for instance? Anyone here got a background in international law or just law generally?

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