Size Zero Bullshit
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The ups and downs of celebrities' weight is the roller coaster on which rides the average Hello! magazine reader's comparitive sense of self worth. People follow it like the weather forecast.
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Designers make clothes in a standard size "4" (which is closer to a 2...this is also the sample size) in American clothing which is a size 6/8 in UK sizes. They do this because when you have a runway show, you cannot fuck around tailoring everything to individual models. So not only do models have to be a certain size, but their measurements have to be as close to 34"-24"-35" as possible. (This isn't really that small on a woman of normal height, but if you're 5"8" it's very thin.) Likewise, on any set of a photoshoot, the model has to show up and immediately fit into the clothing that's all there in sample sizes.
This isn't to say that a standard size that's somewhat "healthier" couldn't be arranged. (Women who have less than a certain percent of body fat--15-18%--can't even menstruate. most runway models are at about 7-8%) I agree with Zhao, though, and I think it's WOMEN who are especially attracted to superthin models as representing beauty on a loftier-than-the-stupid-male-gaze aesthetic level. There's a lot more "romanticism" involved in the portrayal of women in fashion magazines, and more of a tendency to present women as intelligent, interesting, successful creatures than you'd see in a lad mag. I for one welcome that image over the "healthy" one of a woman wearing a hideous outfit straddling the kitchen sink or whatever.
Also, I really get sick of the idea that FHM/Maxim type women are "not as thin" as runway models. They are just as underweight, usually, but more average in their height. The "curviness" comes from breast implants and nowadays Brazilian ass jobs as well. Or in the case of most actresses, photo retouching.
This isn't to say that a standard size that's somewhat "healthier" couldn't be arranged. (Women who have less than a certain percent of body fat--15-18%--can't even menstruate. most runway models are at about 7-8%) I agree with Zhao, though, and I think it's WOMEN who are especially attracted to superthin models as representing beauty on a loftier-than-the-stupid-male-gaze aesthetic level. There's a lot more "romanticism" involved in the portrayal of women in fashion magazines, and more of a tendency to present women as intelligent, interesting, successful creatures than you'd see in a lad mag. I for one welcome that image over the "healthy" one of a woman wearing a hideous outfit straddling the kitchen sink or whatever.
Also, I really get sick of the idea that FHM/Maxim type women are "not as thin" as runway models. They are just as underweight, usually, but more average in their height. The "curviness" comes from breast implants and nowadays Brazilian ass jobs as well. Or in the case of most actresses, photo retouching.
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This is part of it, yes. Clothes are supposed to "wear" the models, not vice versa, for branding reasons.
mistersloane
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Barabara Ellen on Posh in this week's Observer made me laugh
"Why a naked Posh would be absolutely irresistible to all women
Love is a beautiful thing and never more so than between two footballers. David Beckham says of former team-mate Gary Neville that their friendship is so close he could trust him with his naked wife.
Not meaning to be unkind, but couldn't Beckham trust most men with a naked Victoria? Isn't Posh, bless her, an example of the phenomenon - the infidelity-proof woman? So named because most men can't stand them or, in extreme cases, see them.
Beckham definitely couldn't trust women with his naked wife. We'd be straight in there gawping, prodding, and checking for plastic surgery scars. However, the qualities many women find covetable about Posh (Twiglet limbs, designer clothes, handbags you could camp in) would appear to be invisible to men.
Surprisingly, another woman who seems to be infidelity-proof is Sex and the City's Sarah Jessica Parker. SJP is one of the 21st-century's foremost style icons, but that didn't stop men voting her ugliest woman in a recent poll.
Not that it's all one-way - men can be infidelity-proof too. Put it this way. Mrs John McCririck, don't be having sleepless nights about your man straying."
"Why a naked Posh would be absolutely irresistible to all women
Love is a beautiful thing and never more so than between two footballers. David Beckham says of former team-mate Gary Neville that their friendship is so close he could trust him with his naked wife.
Not meaning to be unkind, but couldn't Beckham trust most men with a naked Victoria? Isn't Posh, bless her, an example of the phenomenon - the infidelity-proof woman? So named because most men can't stand them or, in extreme cases, see them.
Beckham definitely couldn't trust women with his naked wife. We'd be straight in there gawping, prodding, and checking for plastic surgery scars. However, the qualities many women find covetable about Posh (Twiglet limbs, designer clothes, handbags you could camp in) would appear to be invisible to men.
Surprisingly, another woman who seems to be infidelity-proof is Sex and the City's Sarah Jessica Parker. SJP is one of the 21st-century's foremost style icons, but that didn't stop men voting her ugliest woman in a recent poll.
Not that it's all one-way - men can be infidelity-proof too. Put it this way. Mrs John McCririck, don't be having sleepless nights about your man straying."
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hahahah. I think Victoria Beckham is repulsive and somehow only gets uglier by the minute and has appropriately moved to LA. I saw this plastic surgery show on TV once where this girl had a picture of Posh and was literally obsessed with her, wanted all of her features redone to look like her. What a waste of $50,000.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
It's alien DNA reasserting itself.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
Make people feel bad about themselves / Sell them stuff that's purports to make them feel better.
Works a treat.
Gavin
booty bass intellectual
Cannot get this phrase out of my head.
mistersloane
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I saw my first bigtime surgery lady about a year ago - fully taught skin, tiny nose, huge lips (you see combinations in London but rarely the full whammy)- and was surprised at how shocked I was, I stared which is something - y'know, erudite Londoner - I wouldn't normally do, she looked really shocking, you're right, genuinely alien, I can see the attraction in going there, I think you'd think that people were staring because they were stunned by your beauty, but it's not really that. The look was genuinely fascinating, and I guess gives people something to talk about as well, it's an entrance, it means you never have to talk about yourself, only what you have had done.
I kinda wanna see total skeletons on catwalks as well, it won't have gone far enough for me until bones are snapping due to osteoporosis in Milan.
I hate the way men's bodies have become, blokes look like insects, which I guess is the idea.
I kinda wanna see total skeletons on catwalks as well, it won't have gone far enough for me until bones are snapping due to osteoporosis in Milan.
I hate the way men's bodies have become, blokes look like insects, which I guess is the idea.
and the well endowed brazilian exchange student in your class doen't help either im sure
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Brazilian people are gorgeous, probably the prettiest people in the world on average.
CHAOTROPIC
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Like that?
Yeah, it's interesting. All spindly flesh as hard & fine & smooth as bone. Changeless & unwobbling & therefore implicitly beyond life & time or something like that.
It's all about fear of bodily functions, ageing & death, isn't it? Same reason goth kids costume as porcelain-fleshed vampires or cyber-robot non-human alien things, both things that don't poo noticably, or get old & ugly. Insects are similar, I guess. Even a geriatric insect would look kindof perfect & they don't poo hardly at all!
Mr. Tea
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A lot of Brazillian women are pretty hot, granted; but if you manage to hook up with one you always run the risk that she's got a bigger dick than you.
mistersloane
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Yeah humans are definitely in the poo stage at the moment.
the lack of obese people in europe is pretty shocking. i hadn't thought about it until i, well, thought about it, that i ain't seen one real whale or at least water buffalo in Berlin. what about England? Tea says there's more popping up every day.
the thing is, some people look good and healthy big. it looks natural and beautiful. but most big people in US are not in this but the other category of disgusting piggish over eaters.
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the thing is, some people look good and healthy big. it looks natural and beautiful. but most big people in US are not in this but the other category of disgusting piggish over eaters.
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