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Thread: That film about Joe Strummer

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    Surely it was Malcolm McLaren who invented the internet and hip hop as well as reggae, the moon, universities, goats, coats, trees and kissing?

    Who were the American bands featured, other than Flag? I'm guessing Bad Brains were in it at least. Rollins does irk me, and I do feel he ruined Black Flag (what a tearful pub accusation that sounds like; 'you ruined Black Flag, you bastard') but I do find him kind of interesting.

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    And custard.

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    It started early so we got Ramones, Dolls, Patti, Television, Blondie.

    but also The Germs, Screamers, Agnostic Front, DKs, Suicide.

    Bad Brains were totally in it and were great.

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    Nah, Al Gore invented the Internet, remember?
    And Led Zeppelin invented hip-hop. In the opening bars of 'When The Levee Breaks'.
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    According to 2stepfan, The Clash actually helped to invent Al Gore, Led Zeppelin AND Malcolm McLaren.

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    Screamers - nice one.

    Agnostic Front - don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STN View Post
    Screamers - nice one.

    Agnostic Front - don't care.
    I will fully admit that their music is rubbish, but as interviewees they acted as a fine counterpoint to the tediously worthy "oh yes well of course we were all very influenced by Rimbaud and Brecht" toss.

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    Fair point.

    Who out of The Germs did they have? I love that lot. The lyrics are surprisingly easy to read without cringing. Very poetic character vignettes if you ask me.

    I do quite like Rimbaud, but I certainly don't want to hear some drug-addled wally mouthing off about him on Channel 4.

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    Agnostic Front were always howling "YOU LIE!" and "YOU RIPPED ME OFF!" like some indignant, hysterical brat whose momma forgot to buy some Kool Aid. But, for all their supposed integrity and hatred of shysters, are the cunts ever going to refund me the 3 quid I once wasted on one of their LPs, which was wall to wall shite? At least No Remorse were funny.

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    Can't remember who they had from The Germs, unfortunately - some live footage from back in the day tho.

    I was doing the ironing in front of the telly so missed the subtitles explaining who was who.

    Fuckin' Jim Jarmusch was on it tho, which was weird.

    Also Glenn Branca still looks really fucked up (in a good way). Tho I don't think they had much in there about his symphonies for a million electric guitars, he was more of a "grandfather to sonic youth" role.

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    It's a shame Don Letts didn't interview No Remorse for the film, really.

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    Oh yeah and martin would have been pleased to see that Ari Up featured quite prominently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john eden View Post
    I was doing the ironing in front of the telly so missed the subtitles explaining who was who.


    Also Glenn Branca still looks really fucked up (in a good way). Tho I don't think they had much in there about his symphonies for a million electric guitars, he was more of a "grandfather to sonic youth" role.
    Oh yeah, ironing's soooooooo punk etc etc.

    Good old Glenn Branca, US Millie is a classic.

    I do remember Agnostic Front being very, very cross indeed. if I want that sort of thing I'll go home for the weekend and hide my dad's newspaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john eden View Post
    And surrealism.

    Did anyone see that Don Letts thing last night? It was better than I thought - Rollins is always great to watch, innit.
    Is it just me or is he starting to look increasingly like Paul Morley with muscles?

    I thought it was pretty good on a factual level, although it almost completely missed any sort of social angle which might have added a bit of depth to it. I also get a bit bored with people banging on about punk is about this / punk isn't about that / Elvis was more punk than the Ramones / peas are more punk than sweetcorn or whatever. Fercrissakes people, punk was a couple of dozen junkies making a bit of a racket, anything beyond that you're projecting onto it. Generally worth watching, though.

    Didn't really mind it being a bit US-centric since we've had all the stuff about the UK punk scene rehashed so many times over the years. It's not going to be long before they can abbreviate the Bill Grundy thing to just flashing up a picture of Bill Grundy half way through the docu and everyone will know what they mean... or do a Disney singalong songs version of it or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slothrop View Post
    Is it just me or is he starting to look increasingly like Paul Morley with muscles?
    Which is good, right?

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