That film about Joe Strummer

john eden

male pale and stale
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matt b

Indexing all opinion
as i'm currently in the throes of nicotine withdrawal, i may dig those records out tonight.
 

Octopus?

Well-known member
USHC/Punk is absolutely amazing. Just off the top of my head as an (entirely subjective) small sampling, how do you fuck with:

Angry Samoans
Antiseen
Bad Brains
Battalion Of Saints
Black Flag
Blight
Chrome
The Dwarves
The Germs
Husker Du
Minor Threat
The goddamn Minutemen!!
Negative FX
Neos
NECROS
Pere Ubu (and by the same token, Rocket From The Tombs)
Screamers
X
The Weirdos
Zero Boys (I mean, come ON)

...and that's the very tip of the iceberg. Difficult to debate the value of American vs. British Punk, but dismissing America out of hand because of a few poncing New York fashionistas and thick-skulled SxE kids...you simply can't do it. And even then, the New York scene is entirely redeemed by the existence of The Ramones and the warp-speed guitar gnarl of Von LMO.

[I must also admit to loving SS Decontrol equally for their horribly obnoxious personalities, ridiculous lyrics and stupidly fun songs.]
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Haha, this sounds like something from a Government "Don't do drugs!" cartoon:

“When you smoke pot
What have you got?
I’ll tell you what
Not a lot”

And I feel somewhat misrepresented by this:
“Be just like me, and Mr T
Be just like me – DRUG FREE..."
!

Edit: "Vegan Reich became Vegan Jihad..."
SPPPLLLFFFFFT!!! This is fantastic! :D:D:D
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
You know what this stuff reminds me of?

"Charly said, always tell your mummy before you go off somewhere..."
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
What would a Dissenus documentary actually be about, though?
I can see it involving Adam Curtis blaming neoliberal economic policy for stagnation in the grime scene, the legacy of Baudrillard and his relevance to horror films, pornography and online computer games and a comparison between the rise of Islamism and - heh, why not? - the straigh-edge movement. :cool:
 
I met Joe Strummer in the early/mid 90s, he came in the exchange in notting hill where i used to work and had a go on a guitar or something.

I didn't know who he was because before acid house came out I was into Parliament and Earth Wind And Fire and jazz funk.

But the other people who worked in the shop seemed pleased.
Also Steve New from the Rich Kids used to come in on the regular. They were something to do with punk in America or something, I was told.
 

mms

sometimes
The Clash and the scene around them helped invent acid house. Mick Jones especially was a crucial link. Oh how people forget their history.

big audio dynamite released a record on def jam. it was the only record that swapped up the early red and black sleeves of the first 10 records - released in 1985 it was pink and black leopard skin, produced by rick rubin, funny eh?


i never liked the clash at all, i never have, i'm sorry about that i just can't find a thing i like about them, i used to listen to big audio dynamite tho, maybe i'm a bit too young for the clash.

i'm not sure how they really helped invent acid house but i can see how the instinct passes on, some of the players, and some of the attitude.
 

mms

sometimes
Come to think of it there was naff all about Big Black and the Buttholes in that thing - just Sonic Youth from that "Blast First" set. Presumably because they were well arty and had a female singer.

no big black, surely very silly.No nation of ulysees - the absolute antithesis to grunges overlarge shirtly dressed pain and angst, hugely pretentious, well dressed and tough, couldn't play much better than nirvana.

no ' shelter '- :)

god so much US hardcore is just self righteous angry boys who don't like their christian dad, but behave a hell of alot like him int they?
 

swears

preppy-kei
i'm not sure how they really helped invent acid house but i can see how the instinct passes on, some of the players, and some of the attitude.

I'm sure I saw some documentary with some mouthy DJ (Dave Clark, maybe?) saying how loads of '88 ravers had been into The Clash. Although there was some other DJ on there saying it was bollocks. Anyone remember this?
 
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