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    From Blackdown's most recent Pitchfork column:

    Speaking of Bristol, one of the most head-turning productions in dubstep has come out of the city, from Forsaken. The track in question, "Last Saloon Swagger" stands out not because it's melodic and not over-dark, nor because it features a guitarist Ben Blackmore and co-production by local grime genius Joker. It stands out because it features a spaghetti western piano roll solo and a breakdown that a chicken wanders through. Laughing in the face of soulless gnarly tech-tunes and wobble-clones, it's a maverick move that the fact that as it divides listeners only goes to prove it's pushing boundaries. It's light, El-B-esque woodblock snares tickle the ear, EQed without the need to slap the dancefloor in the face, funky like some strange Timbaland/Clint Eastwood hybrid. If the influx of new fans into dubstep circa 2006 has pushed back the boundaries of the scene, bringing it into contact with new influences far from its roots, risks like “Last Saloon Swagger” will be taken. If Distance can encompass heavy metal and Vex'd can vibe off avant classical, then bring on the spaghetti western.

    "Last Saloon Swagger" is one of many quality tunes from Forsaken. "Sensei" is deep Sinodub, all Chinese instrumentation, deep sub and chopped gongs. And there's Forsaken's remix of Tom Peverelist's "Erstwhile Rhythm" that takes the original in new directions-- fitting since Tom, alongside Pinch, was one of the people to convert him from drum & bass' Bristol sound to dubstep. Forsaken also has releases forthcoming, with "Thunder" on Immerse and "Sagrada" on (drum funk Inperspective's sub label) Inprint, the latter having received play from Gilles Peterson. Finally he's working on an album of all the stuff he has done with guitarist Ben Blackmore.


    Is this "Last Saloon Swagger" coming out on vinyl? Or "Sensei"? Anywhere i can hear either of them?

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    yeh his virb site has most stuff

    http://www.virb.com/forsaken

    his remix of Erstwhyle is the one for me, feeling that in a major way

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    Default can't believe i'm linking a dubstep guy...

    http://www.virb.com/forsaken

    but its is a jokes tune..though not that dubstep imo

    good all the same - can't deny the talent there
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    Why does the name Ben Blackmore ring a bell? Is he the guy from Babyhead or something?

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    some cool tunes coming from that camp.. been playing a few of them quite regularly, particularly the erstwhile remix. turning it into a hands in the air house-y number was a a great idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakaholic View Post
    From Blackdown's most recent Pitchfork column:

    "Sensei" is deep Sinodub, all Chinese instrumentation, deep sub and chopped gongs. [Blackdown in his Pitchfork column]
    Talk of "sinodub" to someone who is in reality familiar with the music of China and east Asia is quite strange. First of all, the opening sample in "Sensei" is not even a Chinese instrument, and I hope to god that using a gong doesn't imply that the "instrumentation" is specifically "Chinese", because that would be one of tackier and empirically incorrect statements one could make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dssdnt View Post
    Talk of "sinodub" to someone who is in reality familiar with the music of China and east Asia is quite strange. First of all, the opening sample in "Sensei" is not even a Chinese instrument, and I hope to god that using a gong doesn't imply that the "instrumentation" is specifically "Chinese", because that would be one of tackier and empirically incorrect statements one could make.
    your part of this forum - you don't even know

    tell me...what instrument is that opening sample and in your opinion would it be more correct to say "Asian instrumentation" and then further define it by region (east, south east etc)?
    Last edited by Tactics; 28-06-2007 at 06:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dssdnt View Post
    Talk of "sinodub" to someone who is in reality familiar with the music of China and east Asia is quite strange. First of all, the opening sample in "Sensei" is not even a Chinese instrument, and I hope to god that using a gong doesn't imply that the "instrumentation" is specifically "Chinese", because that would be one of tackier and empirically incorrect statements one could make.
    hey fella, i wrote that piece. i've been using the term inaccurately for years, i know it's clumsy: it clumps Chinese, Far East and Asian music together. I fully accept it's innacurate, but given that this direction is such a niche concern for dubstep, it has it's uses.

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