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    Quote Originally Posted by elgato View Post
    I haven't seen one but I could probably knock it up... are there any tracks in particular or is it the whole thing?
    i know all the reggae and techno he played - but the dubstep stuff would be good

    re. the fringes - just feel that the production values have gone up enormously. there are some seriously trippy and mindbending tracks out there now, which is not a description i'd normally attribute to dubstep in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel emits View Post
    Actually, get yourself over to 2Stepfan's blog right now:

    http://blog.grievousangel.net/
    just blogged about this immense mix here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassnation View Post
    re. the fringes - just feel that the production values have gone up enormously. there are some seriously trippy and mindbending tracks out there now, which is not a description i'd normally attribute to dubstep in the past.
    *interested* Care to name names? Or link to mixes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdown View Post
    just blogged about this immense mix here.
    nice interview, pleasure to read! substantive and in-depth, touches on interesting issues, great mix too, but that almost goes without saying 'cos it's Meme

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdown View Post
    just blogged about this immense mix here.
    big mix and interview

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    I rate this DJ Shiva mix very highly http://www.barefiles.com/download.php?id=1339
    She's from an American Techno background, so theres none of that dreaded 'I'll only play tunes by 6 producers' mindset that some of the big DJ's seem to have now. The mix is a 1hr 40 minutes so prepare for a lengthy download.

    For another different mix check out this: http://www.cov-ops.co.uk/lbp/vaccine-feb2007.mp3
    Dubstep mixed in with drumless Accoustic indie, ambient stuff, and all key mixed

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    Thinking about that comment about Loefah and him limiting himself to half step. When he started out with the Big Apple stuff he was more percussive than a lot of the other producers, stuff like Indian Dub, Jungle Infiltrator... So different from him now. I guess Horror Show really unleashed something in him

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassnation View Post
    i know all the reggae and techno he played - but the dubstep stuff would be good
    for the dubstep section...

    Appleblim - Vansan
    Peverelist - The Grind
    RSD - Pretty Bright Lights
    RSD - Light Of Jah Love
    2562 - Kowalski (?)
    Peverelist - Infinity Is Now
    TRG - Put You Down (Ramadanman Remix)
    TRG - Decisions
    Pinch - Pages
    Pinch - Whirl
    Wedge - Overfiend
    Jack Sparrow - ?
    Fracture - The Phonecall
    Komonazmuk - End Of The World
    Wedge - Overfiend (Gatekeeper Remix)

    Appleblim is a very informative host!

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    Can't find a thread for the Dubstep Sufferah vol 3 mix, so this'll have to do: Massive massive stuff- just when I thought I was beginning to tire of dubstep, conclusive proof that it IS still exciting after all and not a load of turgid old bollocks... the fx and re-editing going on kept it exciting, even with familiar(ish) tunes... Its pretty atmospheric but never loses the propulsive imperative. Mix of the year (I reckon). The Grime/Dubstep thing done with taste and attention to detail (ie rhythmic interplay) still sounds amazingly fresh... shockingly so in fact, when everyone is lauding the minimal/off-4x4 element, something as blindingly obvious as this works so well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gek-opel View Post
    The Grime/Dubstep thing done with taste and attention to detail (ie rhythmic interplay) still sounds amazingly fresh... shockingly so in fact, when everyone is lauding the minimal/off-4x4 element, something as blindingly obvious as this works so well...
    That's the most fantastic thing about the mix - it draws on the strengths of both grime and dubstep, and illustrates how their division from one another is very artificial. The halfstep is the foundation, the bassline, the halftime. It's role is reduced in that sense but, at the same time, its latent rhythmic energy (those riddims that we dance to even though they're not really there) is drawn out by the full and double time vocal percussion. So the rhythmic effect is akin to jungle, with vox replacing breaks (which has basically been the idea with grime all along, but it proves how perfectly these two very related things can work together).

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    Its a no-brainer really. It so obviously just works... I simply fail to understand the snobbishness from dubsteppers over Grime interplay. Dreck. Also this mix is ace cos it has a really well thought-out structure, it actually shifts you across various territories logically. Too many dubstep mixes I get bored after half an hour (and sometimes I think so does the guy doing the mix haha...)
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    I'm hoping this smoking ban thing is good for dubstep. Might stop people getting so carried away with some really average stuff.

    Plus the music has to be more engaging to keep people from going outside to smoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gek-opel View Post
    Its a no-brainer really. It so obviously just works... I simply fail to understand the snobbishness from dubsteppers over Grime interplay. Dreck. Also this mix is ace cos it has a really well thought-out structure, it actually shifts you across various territories logically. Too many dubstep mixes I get bored after half an hour (and sometimes I think so does the guy doing the mix haha...)
    It is great to hear Grime and Dubstep in the mix but I'm not sure i like the slightly disembodied feel the vocals have in the mix. Like Paul says in his notes, Abelton gives such a smooth and seamless mix it is really quite strange to hear Grime vocals slip in and out of the mix smoothly rather than chopped ruthlessly in a la Slimzee et al! I think vocals work best when abruptly shoved into the foreground, not floating around in dubbed-out space.

    Still, the mix is really enjoyable and it is very nice to hear something a little different and evidently with so much effort put into it, so big up.
    Last edited by viktorvaughn; 17-07-2007 at 09:35 AM.

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    mix is amazing so far many thanks Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by viktorvaughn View Post
    It is great to hear Grime and Dubstep in the mix but I'm not sure i like the slightly disembodied feel the vocals have in the mix. Like Paul says in his notes, Abelton gives such a smooth and seamless mix it is really quite strange to hear Grime vocals slip in and out of the mix smoothly rather than chopped ruthlessly in a la Slimzee et al!
    this is exactly what i was thinking. i only listened to half as yet, so the energy peak still awaits me, but the feel i've got from it thus far is very much grime in dub, rather than dubstep as riddim. but i dont think its necessary to ask what works 'best', its something different, and very interesting.

    in tone it also reminds me quite a lot of Keysound Radio (but as i say the peak is yet to come!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgato View Post
    this is exactly what i was thinking. i only listened to half as yet, so the energy peak still awaits me, but the feel i've got from it thus far is very much grime in dub, rather than dubstep as riddim. but i dont think its necessary to ask what works 'best', its something different, and very interesting.
    True, there may not necessarily be a 'best' way to hear them. It's a bit grime-gone-ghost, as if the energy has been sucked out by the dub miasma surrounding the vocals.

    I think i've just listened to too many Slimzee sets! Don't want to dwell on the negatives, as i have enjoyed the mix.

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