don_quixote

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brazil will end up with shit teams like australia or japan and algeria. it will be embarrassing.

oh and as for australia being a tough draw... oh please. australia are shit. their best player is tim cahill by miles. the rest are pretty washed up.
 

don_quixote

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that's actually a pretty sweet draw for kick off times for england

7.30 on a saturday
7.30 on a friday night
then 3pm on a wednesday for the final group game
 

crackerjack

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brazil will end up with shit teams like australia or japan and algeria. it will be embarrassing.

oh and as for australia being a tough draw... oh please. australia are shit. their best player is tim cahill by miles. the rest are pretty washed up.

dunno about that. sooner the yanks than them. germans into the group of death, looking nice for england so far
 

crackerjack

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brazil will end up with shit teams like australia or japan and algeria. it will be embarrassing.

oh and as for australia being a tough draw... oh please. australia are shit. their best player is tim cahill by miles. the rest are pretty washed up.

dunno about that. sooner the yanks than them. germans into the group of death, looking nice for england so far

edit: slovenia....v nice

brazil v ivory coast and prtugal. hmmm
 
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don_quixote

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cote d'ivore will be gutted but it would be sweet if they dump out cronaldo or brazil, worst thing for them is that they don't play north korea til last

hey, north korea vs portugal! that's a 66 classic!!
 

don_quixote

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ok, the big matches and the game times:

friday 11th june, 3pm: south africa vs mexico
saturday 12th june, 12.30pm: argentina vs nigeria
saturday 12th june, 7.30pm: england vs usa
sunday 13th june, 3pm: germany vs australia
sunday 13th june, 7.30pm: ghana vs serbia
tuesday 15th june, 3pm: ivory coast vs portugal
thursday 17th june, 12.30pm: france vs mexico
friday 18th june, 7.30pm: england vs algeria
sunday 20th june, 7.30pm: brazil vs ivory coast
tuesday 22nd june, 3pm: france vs south africa
wednesday 23rd june, 3pm: england vs slovenia
wednesday 23rd june, 7.30pm: ghana vs germany
friday 25th june: 3pm: portugal vs brazil
friday 25th june: 7.30pm: chile vs spain
saturday 26th june: 7.30pm: potential england 2nd round A
sunday 27th june: 3pm: potential england 2nd round B
friday 2nd july 7.30pm: potential england QF A
saturday 3rd july 3pm: potential england QF B
tuesday 6th july 7.30pm: potential england SF A
wednesday 7th july 7.30pm: potential england SF B
sunday 11th july 7.30pm: final
 

mistersloane

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look out for me in the crowd at this one

saturday 12th june, 7.30pm: england vs usa

and the Uruguay/France one, I'll be the one wearing a 'Fair Play, My Arse' T-shirt :)
 

don_quixote

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http://vorosmccracken.com/2010wcsimresult120409.html

this guy has some amazing simulator which predicts teams chances of progressing at each stage, he's run it 10000 times.

so england have a 9.87% chance of winning the whole thing, 37.55% chance of reaching the semis, 10.3% chance of getting knocked out in the group stages.

brazil strong favourites, followed by spain, holland and then us. he reckons we're twice as likely to win it as italy.

order he thinks the groups will finish in (percentage likelihood to get kicked out at group stage):
A: france (30.93%), mexico (43.36%), uruguay (45.25%), south africa (80.46%)
B: argentina (20.59%), greece (54.05%), nigeria (59.45%), south korea (65.91%)
C: england (10.32%), usa (35.61%), slovenia (69.79%), algeria (84.28%)
D: germany (23.68%), serbia (48.78%), australia (54.1%), ghana (73.44%)
E: holland (20.69%), denmark (50.12%), japan (62.74%), cameroon (66.45%)
F: italy (16.39%), paraguay (32.24%), slovakia (56.13%), new zealand (95.24%)
G: brazil (9.17%), portugal (41.26%), cote d'ivore (54.73%), north korea (94.84%)
H: spain (12.01%), chile (55.84%), switzerland (61.83%), honduras (70.32%)

which would leave a round of 16 line up:
france vs greece
england vs serbia
germany vs usa
argentina vs mexico
holland vs paraguay
brazil vs chile
italy vs denmark
spain vs portugal

leading to:
france vs england
holland vs brazil
germany vs argentina
italy vs spain

leading to:
germany vs england
brazil vs spain

leading to...

perhaps? have i got that table right? i am really confused about how the knockout stage is working

(oh and doesn't this shed light on how exciting the group stage is going to be? mexico vs uruguay, greece vs nigeria vs south korea, serbia vs australia, denmark vs japan vs cameroon, portugal vs cote d;ivoire, chile vs switzerland vs honduras all look tight)
 

crackerjack

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perhaps? have i got that table right? i am really confused about how the knockout stage is working

I'd say not - not that I've looked, but Motty was getting very excited about us not meeting Germany or Argentina before the final, assuming all top their relevant groups. Spain were almost an afterthought.
 
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