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    Quote Originally Posted by IdleRich View Post
    Well I didn't see that coming.
    Weird innit - now that it's happened, you think well of course, it was bound to, the signs were there (bit like Morrissey coming out). But I thought Jose and Roman would be the Blair and Brown of football for ages to come, locked in a relationship of mutual loathing and interdependence.

    Talking of combustible relationships, you read Damned United? Now there's one for the DBC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcrescent View Post
    Any new nuggets of wisdom after the weekend games?

    New speculation on the possible replacement of Martin Jol by Juande Ramos in the Guardian today, I just cannot see this happening to be honest. Can the Spurs board really be so dumb, and would Ramos leave a Sevilla side equipped to challenge for (and win) serious silverware again this year?

    Re. different threads - "the best bits on Dissensus are derailed threads" and all that, but it'd be helpful. Anyone up for making an EPL thread and a separate one on football politics etc.?
    If there's any comfort for Jol at the mo, it'll be seeing his prosepctive replacement getting stuffed 3-0 by...Arsenal.

    What's EPL?

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    "Talking of combustible relationships, you read Damned United? Now there's one for the DBC."
    Funny, I was looking at that in a shop just yesterday. Often fancied it but I just don't know when I will find time to read it.

    "If there's any comfort for Jol at the mo, it'll be seeing his prosepctive replacement getting stuffed 3-0 by...Arsenal."
    Don't think that will comfort Jol, it should be good practice for managing Spurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdleRich View Post
    Funny, I was looking at that in a shop just yesterday. Often fancied it but I just don't know when I will find time to read it.
    Austerlitz it ain't. One long evening should be enough.

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    "If there's any comfort for Jol at the mo, it'll be seeing his prosepctive replacement getting stuffed 3-0 by...Arsenal."
    How about Mourinho for Spurs? That would be a coup if they could pull it off, might win over fans who don't like the way Jol has been treated and if they are really offering "head-spinning money" it could be attractive to the Special One.

    "Austerlitz it ain't. One long evening should be enough."
    OK, I'll give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack View Post
    If there's any comfort for Jol at the mo, it'll be seeing his prosepctive replacement getting stuffed 3-0 by...Arsenal.
    No shame in that, I think, it was bad luck for Sevilla to have had their Champions League opener away to Arsenal. I think they'll catch on quickly and should make it through the group phase.

    What's EPL?
    English Premier League.

    Chelsea management outdo the Spurs board in stupidity.
    If Jol must go, how about Luis Felipe Scolari for Spurs, seeing as Mourinho will probably take over Portugal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcrescent View Post
    If Jol must go, how about Luis Felipe Scolari for Spurs, seeing as Mourinho will probably take over Portugal?
    Actually now gutted England beat Russia last week. There's two decent managers we could go for....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hucks View Post
    Actually now gutted England beat Russia last week. There's two decent managers we could go for....
    Three, actually. If England's victory keeps Russia from qualifying for Euro 2008, Guus Hiddink should also be looking for a new job in a few months' time. But then it might be too late to replace McClaren, and I'm sure Abramovich is already pulling strings to get Hiddink.

    Silly but fun to speculate who's going to end up sitting where in this endless game of musical chairs!

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    Wenger for the England job - I reckon he'll be leaving Arsenal in the next couple of years...

    Bad luck Chelsea, though - probably the most stupid, if predictable, sacking we'll see this season.

    Wonder what odds you'd have got for Jose being the first manager to go. Damn.

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    Fascinating stuff in the Observer today for anyone interested in the background to Jose's departure.

    http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...175101,00.html
    http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...175177,00.html

    If this stuff is even half true Chelsea are in the shit* - at least until they get a manager who can manage with Roman's money but without his interference.



    * said in the hope they prove me wrong by dumping on Utd this afternoon

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    The tactics lesson from Abramovich to Essien would have been worth paying to see. And England's Lionheart captain doesn't come out of it too well, does he?


    Clearly had access to Mourinho for this article, too. The reference to the 5m bid he wanted to put in for Micah Richards is in there entirely to make him look like a great spotter of talent...

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    "... the Russian billionaire decided to hand out an impromptu tactics lesson to Michael Essien.
    Employing striker Andriy Shevchenko as translator, he instructed midfielder Essien, player of the year last season, to hit passes wide rather than through central areas where the Norwegians had compressed play."
    Blimey! I wonder if that's true.

    "Grant's first match comes at Old Trafford this afternoon, but he did not work yesterday for religious reasons"
    That's ridiculous.

    Can't wait for the game. I hope Utd bury them and the wheels come right off.

    "He must also wait for his Israeli coaching qualifications to be cleared by Uefa before he can be formally approved as a top-flight manager. Chelsea insist the process will be trouble-free.
    Though Grant claimed that he had no 'plan to be the manager' until the appointment came about, he had begun requesting clearance from Uefa a fortnight ago."
    Hmmm, that's strange, almost as if... no, surely not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hucks View Post
    Clearly had access to Mourinho for this article, too.
    Yeah, there's a very banal 'on the record' interview with him in there, which they're not making much fuss about. The juicy anonymous stuff is all flagged on the front page.

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    Well, 2-0 for United, not exactly inspired but completely closed Chelsea out of the game after the sending off as you might expect. United up to second and not playing that well, looking very ominous for the other teams. Hopefully this could be the start of Chelsea's slide to mid-table mediocrity....
    Guess it's all about the sending-off though right? To me it was a harsh decision but not necessarily the wrong one, it was one of those challenges that's kind of somewhere in-between a yellow and a red. If you're unlucky you have to walk, if you're lucky you get yellow. He was certainly reckless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdleRich View Post
    Guess it's all about the sending-off though right? To me it was a harsh decision but not necessarily the wrong one, it was one of those challenges that's kind of somewhere in-between a yellow and a red. If you're unlucky you have to walk, if you're lucky you get yellow. He was certainly reckless.
    One of the worst reffed big games in years I thought. The Mikel tackle was never a red, and once he'd sent him off he then only gave Giggs and Joe Cole yellows for tackles that were just as high. He didn't give a penalty where he should've (Joe Cole on Evra), gave one where there wasn't (Saha's ridiculous dive - which they should administer post-match floggings for), and then he let United score two and a half minutes into the one minute added on at half time. And something I didn't see at the time because I left the pub after the second goal, Wes Brown (already on a booking) clattered Kalou as the final whistle went, injuring him, and Mike Dean does nothing!
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