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    Dubplate Boris. Supa D. Apple. Funky Taffa. and other Rinse DJs. Wigman (?). It's growing and changing. UK house: the new UK garage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdown View Post
    Dubplate Boris. Supa D. Apple. Funky Taffa. and other Rinse DJs. Wigman (?). It's growing and changing. UK house: the new UK garage?
    I hope not. I was planning while I was in London over the summer to investigate a bit and see exactly how big it is, but never got round to it. UK house is still a really elusive concept to me; it hasn't really been defined to me, yet.

    I'll listen to some dance comps that describe themselves as funky house and occasionally get a load of club-banger electro-house shit, but then I switch on Rinse and I hear this chilled out, second-room vibe house music that I really just find fuckin boring. It sounds like hairdresser music.

    What the fuck is UK house?!

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    I remember driving around East London a couple of months ago listening to the pirates and was quite shocked...caught the end of this DJs show (not sure of the station) and he was playing these nuts tunes...kind of a soca beat with weird percussive elements and what I can only describe as rapid-ish (as in ruff sqwad) horns flying around. Well thats what it sounds like in my memory. Then the ads came on and the next DJ was pretty boring generic 'funky'.

    Remember thinking - 'here goes the London machine again...'
    Last edited by Logos; 12-11-2007 at 11:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Boy View Post

    What the fuck is UK house?!
    It's not a fully defined standalone thing as yet as i understand it- allowing djs space to play big crossover club shit like "At Night" or Fedde Le Grand (!)...and plenty of vocal stuff... but i think the direction Blackdown is talking about(?) would be represented by something like Apples Mr. Bean which is on his myspace...

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=123231321

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    Quote Originally Posted by fokse vektaire xeven View Post
    but i think the direction Blackdown is talking about(?) would be represented by something like Apples Mr. Bean which is on his myspace...

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=123231321
    Actually that sounds fairly similar to the sort of thing I heard...definitely worth keeping an eye on...

    Any other stations apart from Rinse pushing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdown View Post
    It's growing and changing. UK house: the new UK garage?
    I think I predicted that somewhere on this forum. Seems almost inevitable that if it gets established enough people will start to fuck with it the way they did with hip hop, house, techno, garage, and now house again. Also right on time, if you (simplistically, but let's try it) consider present day dubstep to be about where jungle was circa 97/98, when UKG was developing in response.

    If there's something to this then it could get very exciting soon (though hopefully with a better name). Please post news as it comes up.
    Last edited by nomos; 13-11-2007 at 12:05 AM.

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    was looking to start a thread on this very subject

    does anyone know of / have any mixes or know any frequencies for the grimier / more evolved sounds?

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    Yeah would be interested to know too...are there any DJs who are known as particularly 'forward'...a lot of the stuff on rinse seems to be this odd mix (to my ears) of actual deep house (kind of Kevin Yost vibe I guess), MAW, crap handbag sounding stuff a la 1995 and really interesting percussive stuff which sits somewhere between the co-op sound, soca and a hatcha set circa 2003.

    Who is pushing the boat out sonically?

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    In the words of Cam'ron Giles:

    "I called this shit about five years ago."

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    try pre-electro stuff from; 'soul avengers', 'hoxton-whores', 'freemasons', or 'stonebridge' even though they are swedes, i believe..

    but as far as the "uk/funky" sound.. i think those are fair examples of what is defined there?.. been out of that loop for a while..
    but it's basically the UK adaptation of US funky house. in other words way more soulful/vocal/upfront than, industrial/deep/techy.. string-key in place of riff-warp etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    I remember driving around East London a couple of months ago listening to the pirates and was quite shocked...caught the end of this DJs show (not sure of the station) and he was playing these nuts tunes...kind of a soca beat with weird percussive elements and what I can only describe as rapid-ish (as in ruff sqwad) horns flying around. Well thats what it sounds like in my memory. Then the ads came on and the next DJ was pretty boring generic 'funky'.

    Remember thinking - 'here goes the London machine again...'
    That sounds uncannily like Stageshow Rhythm by Skepta...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fokse vektaire xeven View Post
    It's not a fully defined standalone thing as yet as i understand it- allowing djs space to play big crossover club shit like "At Night" or Fedde Le Grand (!)...and plenty of vocal stuff... but i think the direction Blackdown is talking about(?) would be represented by something like Apples Mr. Bean which is on his myspace...

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=123231321
    This Apple guy is actually pretty good.

    'Mad Crazy Skank' is deep, sounds like funky grime or something. I could see Tinchy over this beat easily.

    Does anyone know if this guy is released or particularly big in the scene? Is this indicative of what this UK house stuff sounds like?
    Are there others like him?
    Last edited by Sick Boy; 13-11-2007 at 01:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Boy View Post
    This Apple guy is actually pretty good.

    'Mad Crazy Skank' is deep, sounds like funky grime or something. I could see Tinchy over this beat easily.

    Does anyone know if this guy is released or particularly big in the scene? Is this indicative of what this UK house stuff sounds like?
    Are there others like him?
    mr bean has been getting regular play outs, it was on the rinse studio mix towards the end, and on fuck radio 5 if i remember correctly, so it seems apple is going places, i'd get in quick if i were you sickboy

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    right now all of the funky house on rinse is pretty boring, watery pap to me. one or two of the tunes are alright. but it was deadout at the rinse night at cargo, and, crucially, it's clearly not half as successful as bassline in terms of reaching garage fans, or in repeating garage's impact (nightclub dramas, tunes like 'heartbroken' on daytime radio 1 and blaring out of every 14yr old girl's mobile). so i would think anyone boasting about predicting funky house's success might want to hold on, for the moment anyway

    as far as i can see funky's only triumph so far, creative or otherwise, is that geeneus prefers it to grime.

    do prove me wrong though eh. especially if you do it in a manner that echoes 'tropical'

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    man there are too many terms being used
    I have too many questions. is funky house not the same as bassline house? what the hell is niche? and Uk house?

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