Max 19 goes on holiday and tells you about it in the Guardian
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crackerjack
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tbf, a huge number of commenters just assumed he was a public school kid and people never use it as anything other than abuse.
swears
preppy-kei
Yeah, but let's face the awkward truth here, the vast majority of people on the left are middle class, even if not all of us are that well off. Working classes just wanna GETS PAID.
crackerjack
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Yeah, but let's face the awkward truth here, the vast majority of people on the left are middle class, even if not all of us are that well off. Working classes just wanna GETS PAID.
This is a myth, as a glance at the spread of seats and wealth will tell you.
I'd say the Guardian is probably this country's most middle-class daily.
More than the Torygraph? The Guardian is closely associated with a set of values (eco-conscious, anti-war, ethical living etc) which people identify as MC. But the Telegraph's fear and loathing of the working class still seeps into every page.
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Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Hmm, I dunno - the Torygraph's got that kind of aspirational, lower-middle-class ('petit-bourgeois') feel to it sometimes - perhaps the Guardian is more 'effortlessly' middle-class? Who knows, I'm probably talking out of my arse.
They're both clearly out of touch with the common mass of British people, though, as neither paper pays enough attention to the things that really matter, namely Princess Maddie.
They're both clearly out of touch with the common mass of British people, though, as neither paper pays enough attention to the things that really matter, namely Princess Maddie.
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swears
preppy-kei
crackerjack:
OK, I'm exaggerating a bit. But just because people hate the Tories doesn't mean they are left wing, Labour had to move very close to the centre to get into power/prevent SDP type splits. Or at least it doesn't mean they necessarily care about the same "left wing" issues as Guardian readers.
OK, I'm exaggerating a bit. But just because people hate the Tories doesn't mean they are left wing, Labour had to move very close to the centre to get into power/prevent SDP type splits. Or at least it doesn't mean they necessarily care about the same "left wing" issues as Guardian readers.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Amen to that. Although, as I kinda like travelling and spend much of my money on it when I stop to think about it, I find the 'consumer' sections even worse. Who gives a fuck about man bags 'worth' £500? Who can afford this stuff?
To the original point, "Are You Experienced?" by William Sutcliffe (?) pretty much nailed this subject for me, comedically speaking.
Obviously young Max is related to one of the section editors, but he seems far more self-aware than many, at least.
The Guardian might as well have "Spreading Champagne Socialism" as its tagline.
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vimothy
yurp
Tangential, but my favourite Guardian quote:
We misspelled the word misspelled twice, as mispelled, in the Corrections and clarifications column on September 26, page 30.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Tbf, they also have a thing about how to get similar stuff for twenty quid at Topman. But yeah, the lifestyle sections and the opinion pages are impressively out of step regarding the whole consumerism thing. Reassuringly, they still seem to average a couple of letters a month pointing this out.
(Also, they've replaced their 'natural health' bint with a Proper Doctor. Hurrah!)
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Not singling the Guardian out: the Independent does similarly, with 8 bags priced at £200-500, and then one or two choices for us paupers. This opposite a Mark Steel column on socialism.
UFO over easy
online mahjong
I feel really sorry for the guy.. I'd probably remember something like that for a long long time.
I swear every day I get more and more irritated by the sad, incredibly boring people whose only character trait is priding themselves on how 'bitter and twisted' they are.. it's just lazy really, and the frustrating thing is you can't say anything to them or even begin to get say anything against them, or they'll just start dancing around chanting about how they got the better of you, and how awfully funny it is that you fell for it
I swear every day I get more and more irritated by the sad, incredibly boring people whose only character trait is priding themselves on how 'bitter and twisted' they are.. it's just lazy really, and the frustrating thing is you can't say anything to them or even begin to get say anything against them, or they'll just start dancing around chanting about how they got the better of you, and how awfully funny it is that you fell for it
To satisfy the sickest voyeurs out there here's his facebook profile http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1129481107
bit sad tho
bit sad tho
UFO over easy
online mahjong
hah, come on man read that profile
Activities:
Eating, Drinking, Shitting myself, wearing skinny jeans, Blogging, Travelling,
his picture?
his favourite quotes?
as if...
Activities:
Eating, Drinking, Shitting myself, wearing skinny jeans, Blogging, Travelling,
his picture?
his favourite quotes?
as if...