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Luis Posada Carriles or Orlano Bosch? Miami is full of notorious terrorists living openly.
Luis Posada Carriles or Orlano Bosch? Miami is full of notorious terrorists living openly.
Luis Clemente Faustino Posada Carriles (born February 15, 1928) is a Cuban-born Venezuelan anti-Castro terrorist. A former CIA operative, Posada has been convicted in absentia of involvement in various terrorist attacks and plots in the Western hemisphere, including involvement in the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed seventy-three people[1][2] and has admitted to his involvement in other terrorist plots including a string of bombings in 1997 targeting fashionable Cuban hotels and nightspots.
In Venezuela, Posada became chief of operations of the Venezuelan intelligence, the DISIP.[17] The role involved countering various guerrilla movements supported by Cuba, but by 1974 he was dismissed after internal differences with Venezuelan authorities. Prior to his dismissal, the CIA had begun to believe that Posada was involved in cocaine trafficking, but did not break formal ties until February 13, 1976. The agency also believe that Posada was involved in a plot to assassinate Henry Kissinger, who at that time was advocating a more cooperative approach to Cuba-United States relations.[16] The Church Committee hearings of 1975, which had been triggered by fears that the CIA were running too many rogue operations, had a significant impact on the agency, and Posada's association was seen to be "not in good odour".
In 1997, Posada was again implicated in a series of terrorist bombings in Cuba intended to deter the growing tourism trade on the island. An Italian, Fabio di Celmo, was killed and 11 people wounded as a result.
In a taped interview with The New York Times, Posada said: "It is sad that someone is dead, but we can't stop."[24] Posada was reportedly disappointed with the reluctance of American news organisations to report the bombing attacks, saying "If there is no publicity, the job is useless.[15] Raúl Ernesto Cruz León, who Posada admitted was a mercenary under his employment, was sentenced to death by the Cuban authorities after admitting to the attacks.[15]
On November 17, 2000, Posada was discovered with 200 pounds of explosives in Panama City and arrested for plotting the assassination of Fidel Castro, who was visiting the country for the first time since 1959. Three other Cuban exiles were also arrested alongside Posada : Gaspar Jiménez who worked at the Cuban American National Foundation in Miami, Pedro Remón Rodríguez and Carlos Muñiz Varela.[15]
Castro himself announced the discovery of the plot on international television, describing Posada as "a cowardly man totally without scruples". Castro also blamed the CANF for orchestrating the plot. Shortly after, Justino di Celmo, the father of an Italian killed by a bomb in Havana, appeared on Cuban television to urge the Panamanian authorities to extradite Posada to Cuba. Posada was subsequently convicted and jailed in Panama for the assassination attempt.[15]
In August 2004, Posada and the three other convicted plotters were pardoned by outgoing Panamanian president Mireya Moscoso. Moscoso, who had been close to the Bush administration in the U.S., denied that she had been pressured by U.S. officials to engineer a release of the men, though the U.S. government declined to condemn the actions of the plotters.[27] Moscoso's decision was heavily criticized by incoming president Martin Torrijos,[28] and speculation was rife that the pardon was politically motivated.
What's the name of the hijacker who the Americans won't extradite? What's their excuse?
i also think this is a sad day for cuba
Miami is full of notorious terrorists living openly.
Just like Londonistan!
:slanted: Er - is that a joke?
Are there hijackers, assassins and bombers living openly in London? If so, are they there with the full knowledge of the British government
do they have well established connections with British Security forces?
This thread reminded me of an old article by John Derbyshire. I found the article and it's pretty germane:
...With the centenary of Lenin’s revolution looming on the far horizon, and after all the horrors of our age—mountains of corpses, oceans of lies—these fools are still with us. Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all, enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy. Won’t they ever learn? No, their stupidity is impenetrable. They will never learn.
Of course there are. Britain is legendary for being a soft touch on mujahideen fleeing reprisals in their own countries. There have even been high profile jihadists calling on their fellows not to attack Britain because it is needed as a base for jihad. And we're not even just talking about not exporting them back to regimes with questionable human rights records (although that does play a part in it). The term "Londonistan" was created by French intelligence services because of the British government's unwillingness to extradite terrorists.
But this is all ear-bleedingly obvious. Are you joking?
Of course there are. Britain is legendary for being a soft touch on mujahideen fleeing reprisals in their own countries. There have even been high profile jihadists calling on their fellows not to attack Britain because it is needed as a base for jihad. And we're not even just talking about not exporting them back to regimes with questionable human rights records (although that does play a part in it). The term "Londonistan" was created by French intelligence services because of the British government's unwillingness to extradite terrorists.
But this is all ear-bleedingly obvious. Are you joking?
Major Roberto D'Aubuisson Arrieta (August 23, 1944 – February 20, 1992), a Salvadoran political figure known as Chele (light-skinned man) was a Salvadoran politician and military leader who founded the Nationalist Republican Alliance (ARENA), which he led from 1980 to 1985 and, according to his critics, the leader and main organizer of the infamous “Death Squads” of El Salvador, one of the most dreadful terrorist organizations in the recent history of Latin America, responsible for the torture and killing of thousands of civilians in El Salvador, previous to and during the civil war in that country (1980 - 1992). To his political opponents, D'Aubuisson was also known as "Blowtorch Bob," or simply "The Blowtorch," for his alleged preference in using a blowtorch to torture political prisoners.[1][2]...
...In December 1984 D'Aubuisson visited Washington to attend a dinner held in his honour by a group of US conservative organizations, and to receive an award recognising his "continuing efforts for freedom in the face of communist aggression which is an inspiration to freedom-loving people everywhere." [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_D'Aubuisson
The Nationalist Republican Alliance, better known as ARENA, was
"founded in 1981 by Roberto D' Aubuisson -- a former Army intelligence
officer who was cashiered by the military following the 1979 coup."(6)
According to a 1985 CIA intelligence assessment, "Behind ARENA's
legitimate exterior lies a terrorist network led by D'Aubuisson henchmen
and funded by wealthy Salvadoran expatriates residing in Guatemala and
the United States."(7) U.S. documents demonstrate that at the time of
its formation, ARENA was first and foremost a paramilitary organization.
Even as it built itself into a modern political party, it never lost its
paramilitary character, even though some of its members, including
President Cristiani, sought to distance themselves from its more violent
tendencies.
In May 1980, at a farmhouse in Santa Tecla, government troops arrested
a group of twenty-four individuals, consisting of wealthy civilians and
active and retired military officers, including Major D'Aubuisson, Major
Roberto Mauricio Staben, Captain Alvaro Saravia, Lt. Rodolfo Lopez
Sibrian, Antonio Cornejo, Ricardo Valdivieso, and others connected to
the far right. According to U.S. documents,
At the time of the arrest, documents were seized, apparently belonging
to D' Aubuisson, which give clear indication of rightist coup plotting,
including a proposal for a new junta...(8)
Among the documents seized was the notebook of Alvaro Saravia, which
included notations indicating the involvement of members of this group
in the murder of Archbishop Oscar Arnulfo Romero and in other
paramilitary activities. Yet despite the evidence against the coup plotters,
they were released within days, and D'Aubuisson fled the country, where
he proceeded to raise money and international support for his political
party the Broad National Front, the predecessor to ARENA.
During this time, D'Aubuisson received tactical and financial support
from wealthy Salvadorans living in exile. According to a State
Department cable from December 1980, one reliable source had indicated
that "a group of four Salvadorans living in Guatemala provided support
for much of the rightist terrorist activity that occurs here." The group
consisted of Roberto D'Aubuisson, Col. Eduardo Iraheta Gonzalez
Suvillaga, Col. Eulalio Santivanez, and Col. Eduardo Melendez.
According to the source, D'Aubuisson "maintains direct contact with
Minister of Defense Garcia," headed the "Maximiliano Hernandez
Martinez Anti-Communist Brigade" and was "responsible for creating
some of the country's leading death squads."(9)
Miami also provided a critical link to death-squad activities. In January
1981 a "highly respected Salvadoran lawyer" informed Ambassador Robert
White and Deputy Chief of Mission Mark Dion "that a group of six
Salvadoran millionaire emigres in Miami have directed and financed
rightwing death squads here for nearly a year," and that they were
threatening other businesspeople who did not cooperate with their
political plan. According to the source, this group of six "enormously
wealthy former landowners who lost great estates in Phase I of the
agrarian reform" had the following strategy:
To rebuild the country on a new foundation it must first be destroyed
totally, the economy must be wrecked, unemployment must be
massive, the Junta must be ousted and a "good" military officer
brought to power who will carry out a total "limpeza" [sic] (cleansing),
killing three or four or five hundred thousand people, whatever it
takes to get rid of all the communists and their allies.(10)
D'Aubuisson also traveled to South America during this period to seek
support for his activities. A memorandum from the U.S. embassy in
Argentina from January 5, 1981 recounts a conversation with an
Argentine intelligence agent who reported that D'Aubuisson had been in
Buenos Aires, where he received "substantial financial support from
rightist civilians in Argentina."(11)
It was during this period that ARENA was born as a political party, some
say with the support of U.S. advisers in Miami and the U.S. Congress.
Wealthy civilians and members of the military realized that in the new
political climate, marked by U.S. pressure for "free and fair elections," a
party was needed to represent their interests at the political level.(12)
D'Aubuisson returned to El Salvador and helped found ARENA in
September 1981. The new party went on to win the 1982 election for
the Constituent Assembly, to vie unsuccessfully for the presidency in
1984, and finally, to win the presidency in 1989 after a change in
image.(13)
http://www.ciponline.org/dethsqud.txt
"Londonistan" no longer rings true
Would you agree that there is a substantive difference between allowing alleged terrorists to reside in your country and encouraging, funding and supporting terror groups as they bomb and terrorize a sovereign nation over a 50 year period?
Of course, anti-Cuban terrorists aren't the only ones living in Miami - theres also the historical Death Squad connections via Roberto D' Aubuisson:
I'm not interested in defending the anti-Castro terrorists, just pointing out that lots of governments allow foreign terrorists to reside their country in safety, including democracies, for various reasons, one of which is some terrorists are more unpalatable to their constituents than others.
What does this have to do with Castro's resignation and Cuba's future?
An interesting fact about Cuba that is rarely mentioned is that is the worlds number one victim of international terrorism:
You're avoiding the question.
What does 'Londistan' have to do with it?
Originally Posted by vimothy
What does this have to do with Castro's resignation and Cuba's future?
What does 'Londistan' have to do with it?