E. Spitzer (aka the Luv Guv)

Leo

Well-known member
it's also very much a power thing. the high-flying corporate ceo, or in this case the high-ranking government official, who gets off on calling the shots and getting anything he wants.
 

swears

preppy-kei
I always wonder if johns understand that hookers make merciless fun of them, and that it's truly difficult for hookers to muster the ability to pretend to enjoy a trick. (that's why they demand payment, you see...) Is it exciting to know you're so pathetic and disgusting that no one will willingly fuck you? I guess it must be, since men are so eager to part with their money just to experience this sensation.

Saw some documentary about a brothel in the states, one fat middle-aged man on it was sitting with his regular pro and cuddling her, calling her his "girlfriend". All loved up. She had a big fake smile, but you could tell she was revolted by him. Must have been pretty stupid to think she was into it.

But I dunno, I think Leo is OTM about why these wealthy, powerful men see prostitutes, they probably have maids and maintenance people paid to look after and do everything else for them like giant babies, so why not put some sex on the tab as well?

I think her nose is cute, btw. :D
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
My point was, there are probably plenty of women - some of whom, statistically speaking, are bound be young and hot - who would shag this guy because they either thought they might get some kind of career advancement as a result or because of the possibility of lavish presents, holidays etc. (which, at the bottom line, is a kind of unofficial prostitution in itself) or because of a genuine excitement of some kind of being such a powerful man's 'other woman'. The fact that he's not exactly Johnny Depp scarcely comes into it: there's no shortage of ugly yet powerful/influential/stinking rich blokes who are never short of quim. Maybe Spitzer's just that bit lazier.
 

swears

preppy-kei
Mr Tea:

I can see that. I suppose he thought it would be far safer and easier to use a "discrete" escort service, rather than go around trying to chat up young women with a view to finding some sort of mistress. Didn't work out like that though, lol.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Is that an escort service that sends you one girl at a time, as opposed to a continuous stream of girl? ;)
 
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nomadologist

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Maybe in men's minds it's a "power thing", but I assure you that is a "money thing" alone for any women involved. That's the biggest cliche I hear men repeat over and over again--women are "attracted to power." Bullshit, women are attracted to wealth.

For $15,000, Kristen better have a cute nose!
 
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nomadologist

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Just thought of a good example: Bill Clinton.

If women were attracted to power, attractive young women would have been all over this guy, the leader of the fucking free world. (As an added bonus, Bill Clinton is slightly more attractive than Spitzer, and some people even claimed they found him good looking.) But no. Attractive young women were not sleeping with Clinton. Who was?

Monica Lewinsky.

Paula Jones.

Gennifer Flowers.

Do I even need to post pictures? Or remind you that two-thirds of these women found the "affair" rather one-sided on Clinton's part to begin with.
 

swears

preppy-kei
Is that an escort service that sends you one girl at a time, as opposed to a continuous stream of girl? ;)

Is this some sort of maths joke? Lost on me, I can just about get my head around long division.

Nomad:

Yeah, obviously any attractive young woman sleeping with someone like that is in it for the cash. But if someone was already attracted to a partner, then you don't think success and maybe some types of power could be considered the icing on the cake? For men and women. I tend to find career women more attractive, as shallow as that sounds.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
Maybe in men's minds it's a "power thing", but I assure you that is a "money thing" alone for any women involved. That's the biggest cliche I hear men repeat over and over again--women are "attracted to power." Bullshit, women are attracted to wealth.


Two words why this argument is rubbish: Carla Bruni
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
So the word we're looking for here, really, is 'gold-digger'.

Also, are you sure you're qualified to speak for 'any' woman, merely be dint of being female? People have all sorts of different tastes, after all. If I said "Speaking as a man, I can say that no men find women with pigtails attractive", just because I don't dig them, it'd be pretty easy to prove me wrong, wouldn't it?

Oh, and for my money, Lewinsky was actually quite hot before she ballooned.
 
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nomadologist

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That's the thing, though. Women aren't all that physically attracted to men to begin with (at least, nowhere near as physically attracted as men are to women), so they're *really* *really* not attracted to ugly old guys as "partners." The only reason to have sex with old guys is for money or expensive things and rides on a yacht drinking Piper-Heidsieck or whatever.

It would be great if Tyson Beckford also owned Microsoft, yeah, but that seems to be too much to ask of Nature.
 
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nomadologist

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So the word we're looking for here, really, is 'gold-digger'.

Also, are you sure you're qualified to speak for 'any' woman, merely be dint of being female? People have all sorts of different tastes, after all. If I said "Speaking as a man, I can say that no men find women with pigtails attractive", just because I don't dig them, it'd be pretty easy to prove me wrong, wouldn't it?

Oh, and for my money, Lewinsky was actually quite hot before she ballooned.

Maybe there are some women whose kink requires that they find old ugly politicians hot, but I'm sure they're few and far between.

I've spoken with tons of women about things like this for my whole life. I'm going by what I've heard and observed.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Is this some sort of maths joke? Lost on me, I can just about get my head around long division.

'discreet' = private, sly, hush-hush: 'discrete' = in separate lumps, quantised, not continuous.

I tend to find career women more attractive, as shallow as that sounds.

Not at all. Would it make you 'deep' if you got the hots for women who liked baking cakes and knitting things? Different strokes for different folks.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Maybe there are some women whose kink requires that they find old ugly politicians hot, but I'm sure they're few and far between.

I've spoken with tons of women about things like this for my whole life. I'm going by what I've heard and observed.

OK, I just looked at some pictures of this guy, and I concede that he *is* a minger.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
Depends on how rich Sarkosy is...

Well here's Bruni's background:

Heiress to the Italian tire manufacturing company CEAT founded in the 1920s by her grandfather Virginio Bruni Tedeschi and sold by her stepfather Alberto in the 1970s to Pirelli (the brand lives on via its Indian subsidiary, founded in 1958),[1] she was born in Turin, Italy. The family moved to France in 1973, reportedly to escape the threat of kidnapping by the Red Brigades, a Marxist-Leninist terrorist group active in Italy in the 1970s. Carla grew up in France from the age of five and later attended boarding school in Switzerland. She eventually returned to Paris to study art and architecture, but left school at the age of 19 to become a model full-time.


[edit] Family
She is the daughter of Italian concert pianist Marysa Borini and industrialist and classical composer Alberto Bruni Tedeschi.

Now factor in her career as a supermodel and a successful second career as a singer (admittedly only in France, so we're not talking Britneybucks), and tell me just how rich sarkozy would need to be for your theory to stand up.
 

swears

preppy-kei
'discreet' = private, sly, hush-hush: 'discrete' = in separate lumps, quantised, not continuous.

Haha, I guess my English isn't so hot either.

Not at all. Would it make you 'deep' if you got the hots for women who liked baking cakes and knitting things? Different strokes for different folks.



I'm not saying "career woman" as opposed to housewife, I'm saying career-woman as opposed to studenty/hippy slacker. Most of the girls I've been out with were too young or too stoned to even think about a long term job. I think there's some part of my brain that equates making money with a certain kind of useful intelligence. Or as Peter York put it "An animal cunning".
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
This Bruni chick reminds me of Alessandra Mussolini, granddaughter of Benito, Italian Neo-Fascist politician, MEP and one-time soft porn pin-up:

Alessandra_Mussolini.jpg


She looks like she's from wherever Italy's version of Essex is.
 
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