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    what I have decided is the Big Job to be done at this point in the timeline is the rejoining of psychedelia and the avant-garde. When I look at psychedelia as a Famous Poet I despair. I think, my God, this is completely bankrupt. It's stalled. It's the Pantheon Bar from Mount Analogue/The Holy Mountain. It's the gift stores that cluster round at the bottom of the path that leads to the shrine. It's tacky and hackneyed and littered with dead forms and retrograde practice, glow in the dark Ganeshes, dream-catchers, Tie-dye T-shirts and Alex Grey posters, rave flyers from 1992.
    No Sophisticated Operator is going to want to go near that.

    When I look at what remains of the avant-garde as an Ancient Mariner and psychonaut I'm even more horrified. It's the performative connoisseurship of Cafe Oto with it's fine Japanese whiskies and it's craft beers. It's/ real ale drinking, grouchy old men arguing about Adorno, purple Alex Ferguson noses, broken veins, pot bellies. It's Goldsmiths students posturing on social media, pale skin, monkish shaved heads, pursed, priggish lips, beanies and big round glasses.
    No psychically and emotionally healthy(ish) person is going to want to be anywhere near those grotesques.

    The avant-garde has lost it's animating principle, it's reason for being, it's motivation, has become a deracinated aesthetic/intellectual game and niche market and psychedelia has become an enclosed space, a recapitulation of old experiences without the means to make it new, the means to make it live and breathe again.

    Both have become unhygenic and unattractive backwaters, cut off from the moving current. In their current form they both disgust me. Apart neither means anything. The culture can't start moving again until they're rejoined.
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    abolishing/reforming the mental health act might help. always need crazycakes.

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    can't really have the psychedelia until you've felt the snow cry or turn into cosmic rays. the walls breathing is like so 1920s idea of psychedelia.

    this was its last gasp. those riggling boyish tentacled lifeforms giggling at you the first time.

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    sorry luke, please can you define the avant-garde for me.

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    Psychedelia should be the animating principle of the Avant-garde.
    The Avant-garde should give expression and form to Psychedelia and allow its content
    to be communicated. It has to be continually updated or it becomes conservative,
    a shell, an enclosed and policed space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
    sorry luke, please can you define the avant-garde for me.
    the avant-garde as finding forms to fit.

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    all historical forms and modes of expression ossify into shells. this is why Pound says
    "make it new" a shell is a closed, policed space forbidding both movement and growth.

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    art conditions experience. it has to be made new if we are to experience experience as new
    and not recapitulation of the same. we need the clean, fresh air not recirculated corpse breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    The Avant-garde should give expression and form to Psychedelia and allow its content
    to be communicated.
    but presumably migos/young thug wouldn't be classified as avant-garde?

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    poor luke, every time he starts a thread he has to spend 10 pages explaining it before it can get going.

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    leaving aside their merits as musicians do migos and thug make you feel you have burst thru?
    entered the wider regions? wriggled out from under the shell?
    do they make you feel like this?

    1200px-Flammarion.jpg

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    'slippery' is one of the most potently transcendental pieces of music i've ever heard.

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    thats (cubism/surrealism in a comic book) a good example of how the avant-garde creates new forms which then filter down through society into the mass market and condition experience.

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