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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Robert McCrum on Conrad:

Part of the work's strange hallucinatory atmosphere comes from the writer's struggle with a language that was not his mother tongue. He sometimes said he would have preferred to be a French novelist, and that English was a language without "clean edges". He once complained that "all English words are instruments for exciting blurred emotions". This, paradoxically, is perhaps what gives the book its famously enigmatic, and ambiguous, atmosphere.

I bring this up cos in the intro to my HEARTOFDARKNESS it mentioned Conrad's frustrations with English, and how the word 'Oaken' means more than one thing in English whereas in French the equivalent word simply means 'made of Oak'.
 

luka

Well-known member
Don't really like explaining things usually...

It's obviously playing on the rhythms and vocabulary and other commonplaces of football commentary and punditry, for example, the fondness for poor puns, the linebreaks draw attention to Calf/lamb, foot/inch, and serve as a guide to stresses, and those bursts of breathless staccato you get at exciting moments in the game. So yes, it is a joke, among other things. It's how verse works. It's not as arbitrary as it looks
 
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luka

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Oops done a weird thing, accidentally deleted this...
It's a poetic convention Corpsey but if you look you might find a few reasons why it's arranged the way it is, or you could try to put it in a block of text and see if it reads better. Nothing is ever just a joke is it, psychological commonplace

And replaced it withDon't really like explaining things usually...

It's obviously playing on the rhythms and vocabulary and other commonplaces of football commentary and punditry, for example, the fondness for poor puns, the linebreaks draw attention to Calf/lamb, foot/inch, and serve as a guide to stresses, and those bursts of breathless staccato you get at exciting moments in the game. So yes, it is a joke, among other things. It's how verse works. It's not as arbitrary as it looks
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
It'll seem like I'm lying now but that's actually what I thought you might be going for there. But then I thought that might be me being stupid or something and I decided not to comment.

I have a tendency to see poems as something visually arranged rather than as a sort of script for ... would you say oration? So when I see poems

arranged like
this I
tend to
assume that the poet is just being
a bit
wanky

So thanks for correcting that assumption.

I've never learned about poetry and I only recently started enjoying it.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
'He wore his heart on his sleeve didn’t he?
He fooled Jimmy ‘Five Bellies’ into
scoffing cat shit,
sneaked it
into
a
mince
pie,
DIDN’T HE
THAT WAS FUNNY'

:crylarf:

Please explain why you
do
that
with
words

IS IT A JOKE?

I used to like how polystyle_desu's posts were always formatted a bit like avant-garde poetry.

#alway'sInAreHart's #WivDaAngle'sNow
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
can you add some pretty pictures and some sort of call to action at the bottom and then i'll be interested
 

luka

Well-known member
ive got a few bits to add to it like corner shops for instance. ive been wanting to write it for ages but i was nudged into it partly by rereading ubik in which objects regress in time, (the lift suddenly has an iron grille, brasswork, a lift operator on a stool inside etc)
and partly from watching this video (which honestly is almost enough to make you cry)
and gives you a real sense of the stability of the underlying structure, the permanence of it, and the also how the surface layer is always evolving, as demonstrated in Ubik. (those old ticket machines!)
and partly walking through Bank at night and a film set had replaced the underground sign over the entrance stairs to the station with a much older one, which was a real Ubik thrill.
and then you know youve got other instances of the same realistion, for instance when the sign on the shop front is removed and you see what it was in 1968 or whatever. so the structure is there, the shop premises, is relatively stable, but it appears in different forms through time. or the stone setts under the asphalt. and of course music does much the same thing.
 

luka

Well-known member
can you add some pretty pictures and some sort of call to action at the bottom and then i'll be interested









burger vans and huts in industrial estates and outside builders merchants


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bunkers

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old sweet dispensers

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garages

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outdoor fridge

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bay window privet hedge

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gasholders

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scrapyard

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plaistow hall of fame

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woolwich ferry

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woebot and sunny jim

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maryland primary school

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versace cake

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pebbledash

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newham recorder

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mark k punk fisher

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perfect fried chicken

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temple

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mikmen

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bootleg benson

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travelcards and train tickets

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street furniture

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arm bar barrier

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painted over graffiti 1

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painted over graffiti 2

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street art

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william hill

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beckton crew

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fire service training tower

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street art

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ukip
 

luka

Well-known member
river humps its freight etc


shakespeare

street art


pizza

painted pub signs


me and craner


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truman pub

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publife

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woops!

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chicken and chips

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conceptual confusion

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have a drink have a laugh

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old skool like happy shopper

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capri sun

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syringe

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lads

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window transfers

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street food

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croydon

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Balearic Boys

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYLEPIuF2yQ/?taken-by=laughing_foxe
kebab
 

luka

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luka

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it's only with hindsight i can see we were born into a Britain and especially a London still rebuilding itself from the war
everything that was hastily cobbled together was because it was in the wake of that

theres no time we need something standing
 
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