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    Viktor Frankl - Man's Search for Meaning
    Ellenburger - Discovery of the Unconscious
    Celine - Journey to the End of The Night
    Lester Bangs - Psychotic Reactions and Carburettor Dung

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    The conspiracy against the human race.
    The Heights of despair.

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    Im too much of a philistine for finnegans wake. i have to pretend to be a philologist. I'd rather read the interpretation of dreams instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    Im too much of a philistine for finnegans wake. i have to pretend to be a philologist. I'd rather read the interpretation of dreams instead.
    it's as much fun to read about as it is to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    it's as much fun to read about as it is to read.
    Im sure it is but i have a residual hatred left over from my a-levels when all the culturally middle class students would namecheck the cannon like they'd learnt it since age fucking 3.

    i think ill read it in my 50s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    Im sure it is but i have a residual hatred left over from my a-levels when all the culturally middle class students would namecheck the cannon like they'd learnt it since age fucking 3.

    i think ill read it in my 50s.
    yes, it's disgusting i know. but the nice thing about the wake is it's not cannon cos no one has read it.

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    how've the books changed your lives?

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    [QUOTE=sadmanbarty;350147]how've the books changed your lives?[/QUO

    restructure the brain. for instance rimbaud said it is clear to me the i is an other

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    specifics

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmanbarty View Post
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    big question. a good 'un too. i can do it but possibly not tonight. i'll see how bad the imsommnia is tonight.

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    im too tired to do this question justice. but i like it.

    it goes quite deep i think. i'd be interested in how other people would answer the question too/

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    it's wrong to think of it in terms just of ideas.
    thats one way in which people commonly misunderstand
    poetry. people understand with music
    that the medium is the message and that the form is the
    content but with poetry they still expect to extract some kind
    of kernel of information. a message or moral that can be distilled
    down to and then the rest becomes redundant and can be discarded0-

    so there's ideas but there's also implicit values for instance
    a way of approach towards world, orientation, say intensity
    or in terms of expectations-what degree of emotional intensity can you expect from life
    how much can you expect to wring our of it. how inert or alive is this world, and can we
    expect it to respond to us

    and there's a whole way to resist being boring and miserable embedded in poetry
    it's not the only place you can find it and not everybody needs it
    but it's there.

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    basic often unconscious assumptions underlie the way we experience reality
    they set the parameters of what burroughs calls the constant scanning pattern
    so once you tweak the underlying assumptions the pattern is forced to recompose itself
    and reality changes.

    so at 16
    "I am midwife to the birth of my thought: I watch it and listen to it"
    that to me was a judo move

    or all sorts of Blake's formulations

    but again the most important thing to stress is gestalt, just as with music, it's
    infinitely more complex and information rich than literalists are able to give
    it credit for

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    Its hard to pinpoint with exactitude the books and the changes, but even though I forget most of what I read, I figure it's all in there somewhere, working away at my sense of identity and the world. For example I know that James Joyce had a big influence on me when I was 18, despite me being too young to understand his work, and now recalling hardly any of what I read. I feel other authors, like Chekhov, Tolstoy, Flaubert and Kafka, influenced my world view - but maybe they accorded with it? (Or parts of their work did.) Some of these writers, as great as they are, have exercised a poisonous influence on me, and probably due to misreading, or taking too seriously. I'm gullible in life and in literature.

    Most recently, I felt that reading Paradise Lost has a great effect on the way I think about literafure, art and life itself. Yeats ties into this change, which Luka has also helped create. An interest in symbolism, in spirituality, in the imagination and so on. I was an atheist last year. I still don't believe in God, but I have changed my mind about religion. My mind isn't made up at all but it has been unmoored from a materialist viewpoint I have found (unconsciously) unsatisfying.

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    YES! CORPSEYS BACK!!!!! thank fuck
    i was getting worried.
    everythings right with the world again now. i cant operate correctly without the corpse
    part of my personality.

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