Addiction

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
Genito-Urinary, I think. Clap clinic to you and me.

You guys think I am mean, but you should meet my brother.

Once he was at my apt and he answered his cell and I heard him say really seriously:

"Oh god, that's terrible, I'm sorry...no I won't tell anyone."

Then he got of the phone and snickered quietly while txting something.

So a couple of seconds later my phone explodes and it's a txt that says "Aaron has the clap!!!" which he sent to everyone on his phone.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
Weed can be insidious because some people kid themselves that it's not a 'proper' drug, or not a 'bad' drug like booze, coke, speed, whatever. Or when they decide it can't be harmful because it's, ahaha, 'natural'. It's when something is assumed to be harmless that it actually becomes dangerous. Of course, this applies to all sorts of things.

Smoking weed can cause cancer like smoking anything can...I always prefer eating it, myself...it's strong enough to feel that way if you eat enough
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
I think it's sex as function rather than form. I mean, I think it can - and maybe should - get pathologised quite easily, that form of promiscuity, but another way of looking at it is just having a different fantasy every (day? other day? week?) ...and then acting on that. Plus it's free.

I'm not necessarily advocating, just trying to look at other ways of looking at it rather than the good/bad/fucked up paradigms that seem to occur round the subject. For some people, sex is just their thing, y'know? Hobby almost I guess. I'd think that the burnout rate would be quite high though, people appearing as objects rather than humans, from people I've met that seems to be the case, which ties in with the porn use discussion as well.

I don't like it when people get all black and white about sex, especially those people who imagine themselves warriors against the evils of stripping and prostitution. It always ends up being just another excuse to put people down who don't subscribe to society's sex norms...
 

mistersloane

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I don't like it when people get all black and white about sex, especially those people who imagine themselves warriors against the evils of stripping and prostitution. It always ends up being just another excuse to put people down who don't subscribe to society's sex norms...

Nice to have you back :)
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
That's outrageous.

Pills have caused me far less harm than skunk has. In fact, I've never felt bad off pills - I don't get comedowns for whatever reason, so I'm sure that colours my opinion on this.

The difference is due to the frequency of usage, I'll give you that, but the fact is it's far more acceptable/normal/likely to sit down on the sofa and have a strong spliff on a nightly basis than it is to do pills. It's part of a certain social structure.

I'd really rather they did neither.
 
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mistersloane

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i wasn't trying to suggest that weed is totally unaddictive or unharmful anything

Yeah sorry if it appeared I was having a go at you or anything, wasn't just wanted to put my tuppence in about weed. I've just known so many people who are utterly, utterly dependent on it and whose lives are completely shaped by it, and it's understandable but I just find it frustrating that it's classed outside of other drugs, because it just isn't any different. It shapes an entire worldview. It's deemed lesser because it's not classed as being physically addictive, but it comes with its own baggage. The psychosis and cancer annoy me less than the dependency it engenders, people form themselves around it.

Baboon's right, it's the frequency of use. Sitting down on the sofa with a good strong pill on a nightly basis, that's the way to go ;)
 

mistersloane

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How many days would you give it before complete psychosis sets in?

Not sure, d'you think if I go round with a petition my neighbours will sponsor me to find out?

On another note, is that stuff about having a 'gene' for addiction true or is it just AA guff?
 
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droid

Guest
Pills have caused me far less harm than skunk has. In fact, I've never felt bad off pills - I don't get comedowns for whatever reason, so I'm sure that colours my opinion on this.

Strangely enough, it seems that claims of DEADLY SUPER SKUNK 6 MILLION TIMES STRONGER THAN NORMAL WEED DRIVING OUR KIDS MAD, may in fact have some merit - esp. in the discovery that heavy use of cannabis amongst young teenagers may be a cause of schizophernia and psychosis. There'e a company in England that makes drugs for the treatment of mental illness utilising the CBD component of weed, which has anti-psychotic properties. Skunk and various other strands have been genetically engineered to maximise the THC content which can have the opposite effect, but in normal weed the negative phsyiological effects of THC on the brain are counteracted by the positive CBD effects.

So the moral is - if you want to smoke weed without possible mental health implications then stay away from THC heavy strains.
 

josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
Is the manipulation of objects communication if both the objects are human?

Yes again, I would say, although, is a human an object? The human body is an object, and different parts of the body are quasi-objects. But humans themselves?

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Communication = the manipulation of objects = sex?

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mistersloane

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Yes again, I would say, although, is a human an object? The human body is an object, and different parts of the body are quasi-objects. But humans themselves?

I guess if one can objectify, then that thing would, in some way, be an object.

Communication = the manipulation of objects = sex?

That's such a great chat up line, to be able to speak with speech bubbles would be amazing. I think the equation's right as well.
 

josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
Strangely enough, it seems that claims of DEADLY SUPER SKUNK 6 MILLION TIMES STRONGER THAN NORMAL WEED DRIVING OUR KIDS MAD, may in fact have some merit - esp. in the discovery that heavy use of cannabis amongst young teenagers may be a cause of schizophernia and psychosis.

A complex of factors drive teenagers mad; weed probably exacerbates them in certain environments. I wonder whether the criminalization of weed exacerbates its tendency to exacerbate paranoia...

Communication = manipulation of objects = sex... That's such a great chat up line, to be able to speak with speech bubbles would be amazing. I think the equation's right as well.

You can write it on a playing card and slip it across the bar, or spray paint it on the wall of the men's room, or light a girl's cigarette...
 

massrock

Well-known member
Did anyone watch the BBC Horizon documentary about 'The Evil Weed'?

Interesting stuff about how animals have cannabinoid neural receptors for evolutionary reasons that goes back to ancient sea-slugs, supposedly. So basically being stoned turns you into a sea slug. ;)

But also the business about the balance of THC to CBD. Plants bred and grown for super high THC content will have relatively less CBD, a component some researchers think can act as a calmative and anti-psychotic. As so often it's all in the balance, that's why good outdoor weed can be so much better than nasty hydro.
 
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