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    Deleuze is as Deleuze does.

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    It's the eco-gnomic crisis.

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    wonder, is anyone actually going to try and help this poor cunt out at any point in this thread? It is incredible the speed at which some threads descend into recondite tableaux.
    Ha ha, that's what I was thinking! K-Punk would be spinning in his grave, were he dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by empty mirror View Post
    it sounds like the viscous runoff on a delicatessen floor after a long day of slicing meats and cheeses
    This is brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Boy View Post
    It is incredible the speed at which some threads descend into recondite tableaux.
    Given that he and Guattari invented the ritornello, I don't think Deleuze would be displeased with this outcome.

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    This is probably the best ever title of a thread on Dissensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Is Deleuze a witchdoctor?
    Short answer yes, with an if. Long answer, no with a but.
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    The question is genuine. If he is not, what is being proposed here?
    Genuine answer: Get A Thousand Plateaus, read the Massumi introduction and rhizome chapter a dozen times, experimenting with different levels of wakefulness and sobriety. Don't move on until you can imagine becoming-orchid. Never use the word rhizome in conversation if you want people to keep listening to you. Skip ahead to the part about submarines and re-read the line "never think a smooth space will suffice to save us" (or whatever). Apply to step one. Then start wandering around the rest of it - metalurgists, refrains, war machines, wolf men, etc. Pick one you like and try building yourself a machine with it. If you're happy with the results then try a few more. In that case, be prepared to defend yourself or hide your work because D&G are less fashionable these days, having been replaced by smarter men who keep their socks in kitchen drawers and hang pictures of Stalin over their DVD collections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomos View Post
    D&G are less fashionable these days, having been replaced by smarter men who keep their socks in kitchen drawers and hang pictures of Stalin over their DVD collections.

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    i second faustus' suggestion. Kafka: Toward a Minor Literature is a good place to start. as some kind of theoretical backdrop, it's been helpful to me for quite a while now.

    i've been wrestling with Mille Plateaux for a few years now... the first chapter seems to be fundamental to the model they are developing... from there they just sort of elaborate in a lot of different directions. the chapter about Nomad Science/State Science was an interesting one (aforementioned stuff about Metallurgy...)... don't have the book in hand now so i can't say precisely what the chapter is called, but i think it's fairly obvious.

    as far as the whole Body Without Organs/Organs Without a Body thing goes... i think the basic point is to think of identity boundaries as having a lot of fluidity... affect (and other such energies) having the ability to traverse identities, forming and dissolving 'beings' of various constitutions. a lot of this stuff in and of itself wouldn't distinguish D & G from earlier thinkers, but these sorts of things do seem to form some kind of basis... part of the project seems to be taking on all sorts of different physical phenomena (thermodynamics, migratory patterns, an' good ole rhizomatic root systems) and applying them to questions of identity and other such philosophical concepts...

    dunno, it's been a while since i've spent time directly with the feller, but i doubt i'll ever think outside of his massive shadow in my lifetime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vimothy View Post
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    Hardcore continuum.

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    Not Hyderabad Cricket Club, then.

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    i always got the impression that its carlos castenada for poseurs


    not that i would stoop to actually reading the books

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    Quote Originally Posted by franz View Post
    as far as the whole Body Without Organs/Organs Without a Body thing goes... i think the basic point is to think of identity boundaries as having a lot of fluidity... affect (and other such energies) having the ability to traverse identities, forming and dissolving 'beings' of various constitutions. a lot of this stuff in and of itself wouldn't distinguish D & G from earlier thinkers, but these sorts of things do seem to form some kind of basis... part of the project seems to be taking on all sorts of different physical phenomena (thermodynamics, migratory patterns, an' good ole rhizomatic root systems) and applying them to questions of identity and other such philosophical concepts...
    i always thought the BwO was best understood in tandem with Foucault's stuff about how modern society/ disciplinary techniques have made the body 'organic' (in a bad way, functional)

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