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    Partly on watching interstellar. Partly as sunlight and return of spring. Housework in the revelation of Light. Partly in light of dispute/misunderstanding with Padraig. Partly Barry and Reynolds pretetending to not yndersrand poetry. This as symbol takes on some of its freight from the Bible. Dust to dust. You can't wriggle free from that but equally dust as symbol is of course not reducible to its biblical context. It is an ever present in human life. It is the residue. Dust is the revenge of the left behind and the superceded. The revenge of the replaced and forgotten. The spiteful subsistence of the dead. And dust is symbol of the duty, always resented, hugely, due to Life and its maintenance. Always wiping it clean. Patiently removing the dust again and again so the inscription can be read.
    We are always at war with dust because it is implacable. It is a function of life. Its desideratum. It always threatens to overwhelm us,to bury us. But still we treat it tenderly knowing that everything we are now will soon be dust.

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    That's just a sketch to give a
    Sense of how this stuff operates when we read for instance

    That world, and those who peopled it, buried under grey dust, wrapped in the grey sheet.

    But of course the elegy is here also for the elegiac tone as such.

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    Dust is largely dead skin cells, isn't it? Plus a bit of pollution.

    Philip Pullman makes a great deal out of dust in his Northern Lights trilogy. It's a stand in for life energy IIRC

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    It's also most probably the source of us. Cometary excreta and galaxy spanning cosmic detritus.



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    Not to mourn it but merely to mark it. No more elegies.

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    What you two are both getting at is important. It's the coincidentia oppositorum. That's how Pullman is using it

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    This is a large part of how thought operates in poetry and as poetry.

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    It's also why the opposite of grey is green.

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    Spirit sallies into grey nexus.
    Ghosts hold forth their begging bowls. Particulate matter in the throat. Damp. Neither salvation nor retribution visit here. BRAIN FRENZY. pewter. The soft decisions of a spider's feet. Gossamer and grey lace. The grey tide of grey dust. This, is another forgetting.

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    What would it mean to let it catch you? that, is the recurring question. What would it mean to stop running? To make yourself the centre of that sadness. To have it surge outward from that fixed point in all directions, the world caught up in it, sticky as honey, grey with dust.

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    he would take his chosen film to a cinema in leicester square
    set it in motion then sit alone in the huge plush interior, smoking a cigarette or two
    purely for nostalgia’s sake, to see the smoke rising through the film beam


    it's not just smoke, it's also dust, omnipresent, magic, floating in every direction. we can hear it too, the little crackles when playing old vinyls. it's physical time.

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    On Adam last thus judgment he pronounc'd:
    "Because thou hast heark'n'd to the voice of thy wife,
    And eaten of the tree concerning which
    I charg'd thee, saying, 'Thou shalt not eat thereof,'
    Curs'd is the ground for thy sake: thou in sorrow
    Shalt eat thereof all the days of thy life:
    Thorns also and thistles it shall bring thee forth
    Unbid, and thou shalt eat th' herb of th' field:
    5In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread,
    Till thou return unto the ground; for thou
    Out of the ground wast taken: know thy birth,
    For dust thou art, and shalt to dust return."

    Paradise Lost

    And I will show you something different from either
    Your shadow at morning striding behind you
    Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
    I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

    The Waste Land

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    Very good corpsey now let me show you another trick

    "Do not love this man. He makes
    Fridays unbearable, with the
    ominous dullness of the gateway
    to the Spanish garden. His
    herb-set teeth are impossible"


    JH Prynne. The Bee Target on his Shoulder.

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