Road Rap

Also, give me at least one example of this apparent pandering to students.

Corpsey said:

I thought drill was still pretty insular? Stormzy et al I didn't realise had anything to do with it.

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he doesn't, other than the fact that drill artists have seen how grime became successful and are trying to copy it.

That makes sense - the same way grime had a confidence crisis and wiley and skepta made those terrible house singles that got played in gyms a lot

they can either talk about politics like we do in student halls or they can be some silly novelty we can ironically dance to at student nights.

they also need the music to be frozen in 2017 so that we can catch up with it.

Does this represent the whole genre or is there still an underground element to it?

I wonder what trilliam thinks

Corpsey said:

Does this represent the whole genre or is there still an underground element to it?

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there still is, but even that stuff isn't evolving.

also all the best artists are dead or in prison, so there's a huge absence of talent.

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I wonder what trilliam thinks

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he married a some widowed millionaire in the country with a big mansion and all that. he told me and luke when we met him and we just thought he was fucking about, but he actually pulled it off.

stroke of genius on his part.

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wearing driving gloves and a flat cap.

farage chic.

Wasn't there some drill video where they were out in the country? 67 or something?

And in that Mike Skinner doc 67 had moved out to the country.

For the record we don't need Barty's opinion of whom is performing 'minstrelry', no offense.

Def. a remark that if third was here as frequently as normal he would've flayed you alive for that one.

crowley, your attempts to be a white saviour here are grossly offensive and historically tone deaf. you should apologise immediately.

i can't believe you could be so patronising. treating them as though you're their benefactor. fucking disgusting frankly.

you see where that game gets you crowl? if you must do it save it for twitter please.

This thread is crying out for some tags

It's not white saviorish to think that "Hmmm. Maybe you determining that the rapper you don't like is getting away with minstrelsy because of their music videos being corny" as some sort of offering of empirical evidence is shitty.

I can't fucking stand anyone in Section/Smoke, I'm not going over every time there's a dumb novelty video they've made as something beneath them. That'd be like pointing to the old man suits in the "Shake a Leg" video as some sort of criminal damning of Roll Deep or look at the fucking "Rolex Sweep" as sycophantic.

You can at least scale it back to like, IDK, simply pointing out to the fact that the UK music industry's sensibilities to rap are still in the primordial ooze akin to the US in the 80s thanks to a combination of backwards comedic sensibilities and a grating need to force entertainers to become novelty acts to be digestible beyond the say, 100 Thousand people or so in their core demographic. Which is fucked and has been a glaring issue for the past 20 years or so, but for any person in the industry looking past that, there's 2 or 3 people coming up with an Ed Sheeran-type scam to get themselves Out of urban music to make money/be respectable.

Strong counter-thrust it's heating up! Is barty about to get cancelled?