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    beautifully put assessment of this mob Oliver.
    as the old line goes, they couldn't run a bath.

    i must admit i haven't read this Orange Book i'm slagging off but there again i don't want to.

    knee-jerk a priori personal of me (which is a bad thing, i know) but Vince Cable's time at Royal Dutch Shell means he would have to work extra hard before he was endearing politically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassnation View Post
    all the parties trot out the same tired old thatcherite policies.
    Is this actually true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vimothy View Post
    Is this actually true?
    if we are talking in terms of the three main parties, i'd love you to enlighten me on which is socialist or even eschews economic liberalism.

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    So there's only one dimension along which parties compete, and that's economic? And furthermore, there are only two choices: "economic liberalism" or socialism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vimothy View Post
    So there's only one dimension along which parties compete, and that's economic? And furthermore, there are only two choices: "economic liberalism" or socialism?
    i don't pretend to be an expert in politics or economics, but i don't feel that any of the parties represent me in any shape or form, and i'm far from alone in feeling that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vimothy View Post
    So there's only one dimension along which parties compete, and that's economic? And furthermore, there are only two choices: "economic liberalism" or socialism?
    and yes, what i want is a proper socialist alternative, and i want to see the working class represented once again (cf the rise of the bnp). so what do you want?
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    A nice cup of tea.

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    Anyway, aren't there (IIRC) quite a few socialist and communist parties already?

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    So what do people reckon on matters other than the economy?

    Specifically, do either of the other main parties offer much of an alternative to the hegemonic New Labour brand of patronising nanny-state 'liberalism' combined with ever-encroaching authoritarianism? "Five portions a day keeos Osama away!" I mean, excluding those states with unarguably totalitarian regimes, has any government ever lectured, snooped on or interfered with the populace quite as much as our current overlords?

    And could we expect a susbtantially different mode of relationship between government and public with either a) the Lib Dems or b) the Tories in charge?

    BTW that's not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely interested to know the thoughts of people on here who keep a bit more up-to-date on politics than I do (which wouldn't be difficult).
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    A nice cup of tea.
    With the Taliban?

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    You know who else drank tea?



    HITLER!
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    And he died!

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    Quote Originally Posted by massrock View Post
    And he died!
    Well that's the official story...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    You know who else drank tea?



    HITLER!
    looks more like he drank water by the vase

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    Specifically, do either of the other main parties offer much of an alternative to the hegemonic New Labour brand of patronising nanny-state 'liberalism' combined with ever-encroaching authoritarianism?
    I dunno. That's not very specific. I do know that there are lots of problems with pomo terrorism (a la AQ) for the current (international and domestic) legal regimes... Not much of an answer, perhaps.

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