The Gender Wars
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Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Whats the problem? When has Dissensus been host to immature disagreements?
Apparently South Korea's a special case as it's an incredibly misogynistic society but doesn't have the high birth rates that normally come with that. The women there are sick of the way they're treated and the men are doubling down so you've got this situation of the two being totally at odds with one another and some women completely checking out due to having the freedom to walk away and focus on a career.
sufi
lala
Misogyny in music
This is a House of Commons Committee report, with recommendations to government. The Government has two months to respond.
Second Report of Session 2023–24
Author: Women and Equalities Committee
Date Published: 30 January 2024
1 Introduction
1. Women are underrepresented in key roles in the music industry. Positions of authority, from senior leadership through to roles in Artists and Repertoire and production have historically been more likely to be occupied by men. This is reflected in the unequal representation of female artists in the rosters of artists at major record labels, in airtime, streaming and as headliners at music festivals.1
2. In many levels of the industry female representation is improving, in part due to the support of a myriad of targeted programmes, but in certain areas progress is slow and shackled by discrimination, misogyny and sexual abuse in an industry that is still routinely described as a “boys’ club”.2 Women seeking careers in music continue to face unjustifiable limitations in opportunity, a lack of support, gender discrimination and sexual harassment as well as the “persistent issue of equal pay” in a sector dominated by self-employment.3 These issues are intensified for artists faced with intersectional barriers.4
sufi
lala
2.1 Sexual violence as a punishment for breaking norms
Night-time leisure venues have been places for people to interact, have fun and freelyexpress their unorthodox pleasures, desires and lifestyles. Night time was, and still is,
a refuge for breaking norms and creating communities that are often incomprehensible
in the light of day. Unfortunately, not everyone can enjoy such places in equal conditions.
Women, although they are not alone here, have historically been excluded from
the freedom to legitimately enjoy public life, a status that has put them in a more vulnerable
situation with regard to violence in this context. Traditionally confined to private spaces,
women have been punished through forms of gender violence, mainly where they were
thought to have made an unconventional use of their freedoms. The presence of women
in public places at night has been interpreted as a transgression of their gender role
and that is the reason why even today they remain at risk of being assaulted through
various forms of sexual violence. Even so, as several studies reveal, non-white women,
working-class women or women with a non-normative sexuality are more at risk of falling
prey to violence and stigmatisation.
from: Protocol “We won’t keep quiet” campaign against sexual assault and harassment in private night-time leisure venues 2018
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I don't see why this doc feels the need to attenuate the important salvo against sexual violence against women by advancing this tenuous radical-chic rationale for it...women have been present in public spaces in the UK in great numbers for decades so how can it be seen as a transgression?
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2010 seems to be the main take-off point so maybe it's 4G enabling 24-hr echo chamberisation whereby not only men or women harden their positions but also the ideologies themselves conform more to male or female thinking styles and aims through the online feedback mechanisms
Occupy Wall Street was a threat in the years following 2008, and great pains were taken to divide the young every which way
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It's the 'Men are Pigs' project selon Miles Mathis
Yeah, I've seen this suggested before. There are a bunch of graphics around which claim mentions of sexism, racism, etc. suddenly exploded in publications like the New York Times just after Occupy.
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That article would be a lot better if they had more graphs
because there are loads of other countries out there, I've been led to believe
because there are loads of other countries out there, I've been led to believe
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He says:
Outside the west, there are even more stark divisions. In South Korea there is now a yawning chasm between young men and women, and it’s a similar situation in China. In Africa, Tunisia shows the same pattern. Notably, in every country this dramatic split is either exclusive to the younger generation or far more pronounced there than among men and women in their thirties and upwards.
So he has two Asian countries and one in Africa. When he says 'every country' he's probably referring to the countries he's mentioned rather than every country that exists but he's quite happy for people to interpret it as the latter. Poor.
The arrows at the end of the graphs are also bad practice because they imply something that is yet to happen. The graphs are descriptive not predictive so you can't do that.
Outside the west, there are even more stark divisions. In South Korea there is now a yawning chasm between young men and women, and it’s a similar situation in China. In Africa, Tunisia shows the same pattern. Notably, in every country this dramatic split is either exclusive to the younger generation or far more pronounced there than among men and women in their thirties and upwards.
So he has two Asian countries and one in Africa. When he says 'every country' he's probably referring to the countries he's mentioned rather than every country that exists but he's quite happy for people to interpret it as the latter. Poor.
The arrows at the end of the graphs are also bad practice because they imply something that is yet to happen. The graphs are descriptive not predictive so you can't do that.
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The fact that attitudes overall are so 'liberal' rather than 'conservative' suggest a calibration problem; they need to redo the criteria to account for what is centrism these days
What did they use to calibrate 'conservatism' - Genghis Khan?
What did they use to calibrate 'conservatism' - Genghis Khan?
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
Don't have time to get into the actual topic rn (tldr: toxic masculinity reactionary backlash vs. women liking, yunno, actually having rights) but here's a more in depth thread on S Korea
The money shot
"This largely explains why young men have turned right in recent years. Their frustrations is a combination of toxic masculine upbringing in a hyper competitive society, without a clear vision of how they can benefit from an egalitarian society & politicians utilising it for votes.
Combined with a new generation of women who are fed up being 2nd class citizens, now newly equipped not only with education but also with potential power/wealth and independence who resist going back to the old ways of society."