Pinter wins Nobel

jenks

thread death
yeah - i think i think it's a good thing.

read in the observer on sunday that the jury had delayed its nomination suggesting that pamhuk from turkey was going to get the gong.

have just finished simon gray's smoking diaries - lots of refs to pinter and his illness there, indeed the suggestion seemed to be that he was on death's door.

hope this doesn't inspire him to write another ode to cricket though. ;)
 

Grievous Angel

Beast of Burden
Jack: So .... [pause]
Jack: So he won then. [pause]
Jill: Yes.
Jack: Yes. [longer pause]
Jack: He waited long enough.
Jill: Yes.
Jack: Yes ... he did. [pause]
Jill: Yes, he certainly waited long enough.
Jack: Words. [pause]
Jill: What?
Jack: Words, in conversion, he was good at that. [pause]
Jill: Yes ... he waited long enough.
Jack: I think... [pause]
Jill: ...and pauses, he was good at that too.
Jack: Yes.
Jill: Yes. [pause]

(had to rewind that)

(Er his plays are a bit dull though, aren't they? Prefer Beckett meself, to the degree I have a preference...)
 

dogger

Sweet Virginia
2stepfan said:
Jack: So .... [pause]
Jack: So he won then. [pause]
Jill: Yes.
Jack: Yes. [longer pause]
Jack: He waited long enough.
Jill: Yes.
Jack: Yes ... he did. [pause]
Jill: Yes, he certainly waited long enough.
Jack: Words. [pause]
Jill: What?
Jack: Words, in conversion, he was good at that. [pause]
Jill: Yes ... he waited long enough.
Jack: I think... [pause]
Jill: ...and pauses, he was good at that too.
Jack: Yes.
Jill: Yes. [pause]

(had to rewind that)

(Er his plays are a bit dull though, aren't they? Prefer Beckett meself, to the degree I have a preference...)

well, they are a bit, but the early ones are better.

the difference with beckett is that he actually *meant* his plays to be "boring" -- he created a sort of punative theatre. he was interested in pushing the limit of what was an acceptable minimum of theatrical action, or to put it another way, of what people were prepared to pay to watch in a theatre. he was also very cynical about virtuoso acting - hence why he absurdly crippled his characters, putting them in wheelchairs and eventually encasing them in giant urns. there was certainly something wicked and mechant about all this, so although it's boring in one respect, once you realise it's all deliberate it actually becomes rather brilliant.
 
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