oooooo thanks, heard this on the radio one day and was dying to know what it was.
subvert47 said:
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Modern d'n'b is rubbish - tune ID and a moan from an old man
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oooooo thanks, heard this on the radio one day and was dying to know what it was.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
fokse vektaire xeven
Arab Nazi
maybe he's on dubstep forum now complaining about all the tunes sounding like slowed down drum n bass
mixed_biscuits
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Was Technical Itch the first to do this kind of thing?
Yeah I guess. 97/98... Tech Itch, Panacea, the No U-Turn tracks like Droid to some extent.
Haven't kept up with dnb much at all really, but came across some CV tracks and thought crikey, just when you figured it couldn't get any harder. I like CV moreso than the other bits I've heard in this vein from Gein, Spor, Evol Intent, Limewax... though I haven't done a lot of digging.
Alfons
Way of the future
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF261973-01-02-01.mp3
axis and trank - nothing remains
always thought that this was as hard and funny as this style of dnb was going to get. I like some of the current value, freak, panaece stuff, don't think I could go for more than a couple of tunes in a row tho.
axis and trank - nothing remains
always thought that this was as hard and funny as this style of dnb was going to get. I like some of the current value, freak, panaece stuff, don't think I could go for more than a couple of tunes in a row tho.
i've been enjoying the stuff on darkestral label lately, their releases have been great.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=58789494
also lightless and bassbin sometimes
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85471016
really like the digital soundboy mix of night by benga abd coki too.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=58789494
also lightless and bassbin sometimes
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85471016
really like the digital soundboy mix of night by benga abd coki too.
Alfons
Way of the future
Agreed, altho 165 or 160 would probably be more of a stand. But good label and good artists!
mixed_biscuits
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There is some cracking ragga/dancehall/whatever drum and bass out there at the mo' cf. Dubwize.
UFO over easy
online mahjong
i got some of my jungle/dnb records out again for radio the other day, for the first time in ages
here's the archive - http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=8636
here's the archive - http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=8636
Alfons
Way of the future
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/end-of-dumb--base-1626845.html
the independent with kind of daft article on modern dnb...
the independent with kind of daft article on modern dnb...
I really love this track, from 2002 http://www.last.fm/music/London+Elektricity/_/Billion+Dollar+Gravy
Anyone who is interested in dnb as more than just a jungle resample, check that out, tell me what you think.
Anyone who is interested in dnb as more than just a jungle resample, check that out, tell me what you think.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
respect to the drummer but in all honesty other than that, eh. oh look we've got live musicians! interesting choice of words there too "more than just a jungle resample". yeh sure modern breakbeat jazz or whatever
owengriffiths
Owen
That quote that said "I want D&B to be like techno, where you're allowed to innovate", seemed a real bum note. I would always have said its one of the more formulaic genres, though not as limited as trance
respect to the drummer but in all honesty other than that, eh. oh look we've got live musicians! interesting choice of words there too "more than just a jungle resample". yeh sure modern breakbeat jazz or whatever
Sorry - I like the video, and I like the live band thing, but its a different thing from the records he puts out, and that was what I meant - if you click the play button on the right-hand side of the last.fm screen you can listen to the original version of the track itself. The live band thing is obviously in a different category to DJs playing records, you can't compare them that easily. As far 'jungle resample', what I was getting at was records made today, or recently, that use exactly the same samples and sounds that jungle records did - breakbeats, clips of (ragga) guys talking, pads, atmospherics, percussive basslines - and in mainly the same way, rather than casting a wider net in terms of samples - a la the above London Elektricity tune - or reinventing the basic grooves they're used in - eg dubstep - or just doing something completely different - eg. I Luv U.
Having written that, I can't quite see what I Luv U has to do with the other two - modern dnb and dubstep; perhaps I'm blinded by the hardcore continuum theory. I can't even quite see how I Luv U is predicated on garage, although I can in turn see the relations between garage and jungle.
Might it be fair to say that the dubstep aesthetic is a combination of two seperate strands: on the one hand, jungle 'ideas' and sonic tropes, like rasta guys talking, complex beats, atmospherics, etc, and on the other, grime production methodology, ie. synths not samples, hits not breakbeats? I think the answer is no, actually, something like that probably obscures other important influences on dubstep (reggae, techno, garage). Perhaps a more useful thing to note would be the gradual replacement of samples and breakbeats with produced sounds - synths, basically - in all these musics, from sampledelic early jungle to sampled-stuff-but-buzzy-synth-basslines-or-eerie-pads of later jungle to the marimba basslines and fake pizzicato strings of garage to the Cubase-synths + live rapper of grime to the mainly synthesised melodies, atmospherics, and basslines of dubstep to the almost entirely synthesised chords, basslines, even drums of the wonky stuff (by this I mean the Joker/Ikonika side - the UK side - not the FlyLo/HudMo US-influenced axis). Anybody buy this?