come discuss something on /mu/ with me real quick

[other_life]

maybe i need to start a new thread + actually do the difficult work of making my position coherent

 

[linebaugh]

provide examples. I was probably the target demographic for prime vaporwave and I really don't know too much

 

[linebaugh]

Im not 19 Im 26. People call me 'the next mvuent'

 

[other_life]

god damn it now i have to do a retrospective mix of the stuff that's worth keeping. because of course i love everything on this chart but i won't go as far as saying *all of it* is worth even interrupting your day for

 

[other_life]

NO USB, by YES USB

14 track album

cigaretteledge.bandcamp.com

sunkhronos, by VISTAAS

8 track album

vistaas.bandcamp.com

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL259416A449BB2B46

these are the three records i managed to link in the /mu/ thread before i gave up on it

FINAL TEARS, by INTERNET CLUB

10 track album

internetclub.bandcamp.com

NHK REMINDS YOU TO BOOST YOUR SIGNAL, by ECCO UNLIMITED

3 track album

internetclub.bandcamp.com

these were also huge for me when they came out

 

[other_life]

the common factor of all 5 is that they have an unnerving + displacing quality that post-2014-vaporwave has avoided, or is -not capable- of evoking. in some sense maybe the sonic array of vaporwave-chillwave in general is -no longer capable- of evoking this feeling.
so what is?
where do we go for unnerving, displacing, dissociative/dissociating electronic music being produced now, that could not be produced anytime but now?

 

[WashYourHands]

ask @thirdform

 

[other_life]

thirdform is a paragon but he and i have ultimately opposing aesthetic sensibilities. i dont think im unnerved/displaced/dissociated by what he is

 

[other_life]

vaporwave in its prime had this quality in a way that was decidedly not forceful or militant or even avant-garde. it was an outgrowth of chillwave and it is undoubtedly pop music and -about engaging with- pop music

 

[other_life]

thirdform is a paragon but he and i have ultimately opposing aesthetic sensibilities. i dont think im unnerved/displaced/dissociated by what he is

this is not universally true btw i love his top 100 but 'whiteboi cannabinoid stupor' is part of my dna and probably in a very literal sense

 

[other_life]

i don't have the ingredients for the speed and volume that his school of listening and production demands

 

[mvuent]

you people don't get it either

how so?

 

[other_life]

i feel like previous attempts at discussing this thread in 2010s music have been talked over no matter how much i try to compose myself about it and it actually hurts my feelings

 

[other_life]

you people can admit this kind of hyperbole for dubstep or its antecedents because it was formative for you (which i can respect) but not for chillwave and vaporwave. why?

 

[other_life]

vaporwave in its prime was too good + had too many connections with other forms of internet-dependent music (dubstep-in-its-prime among them, actually!) to be this under-theorised and left for cynical bandcamp tape hustlers and hapless contemporary teens

 

[mvuent]

personally im interested and tried to discuss it on this forum. there's music and facets of internet culture i deeply care about and would want to discuss that dissensus (and everyone else i know) doesn't touch and yeah its frustrating at times.

 

[mvuent]

People call me 'the next mvuent'

ouch, thats not very nice of them

 

[other_life]

you are the exception to the rule

 

[other_life]

*exception that -proves- the rule

 

[mvuent]

most of the main users here like luka are well into their 60s though. too old to get it... or maybe not?