uk comedy is in a nadir

[version]

Yeah, Detectorists was great.

 

[haji]

Ghosts

Ghosts was good - basically the entire same cast of CBBC Horrible Histories, which is also good for a laugh.
They also made a film about shakespeare which contains a lot of jokes about farts and bums and so on

 

[haji]

as i mentioned before hidden camera is the only comedy

do we think that the democratisation of the camera has created a critical challenge for comedy?
not only due to the fact that IRL/spontaneous japes tend to be funnier than staged comedy can ever be, but also by sheer numbers, the amount of hilarity captured each day on phones by normies gigantically eclipses professional comedy (which was always 50%+ shit anyway tbh)
you can easily see how the style has affected mainstream, even TV comedy - on Limmy, People do nothing, etc ... and that whole fly on the wall Office fake documentary style. The space available for sitcoms is very tight

 

[haji]

This was pretty funny, at least on first watch, but then I quite like Count Arthur Strong too

 

[forclosure]

do we think that the democratisation of the camera has created a critical challenge for comedy?
not only due to the fact that IRL/spontaneous japes tend to be funnier than staged comedy can ever be, but also by sheer numbers, the amount of hilarity captured each day on phones by normies gigantically eclipses professional comedy (which was always 50%+ shit anyway tbh)
you can easily see how the style has affected mainstream, even TV comedy - on Limmy, People do nothing, etc ... and that whole fly on the wall Office fake documentary style. The space available for sitcoms is very tight

i think it's less the camera and more memes there's yutes in some dusty end of Montana who makes a shitpost about wishing he could get away with crapping on a politicans car the way a pidgeon does and that gets more laughs and responses than something a comedian has spent sleepless nights painstakingly putting together

and then they wonder why people say stand up comedy as an entire form is shit and should be gotten rid of

 

[forclosure]

It's ironic you say all of this when Portugal still has a powerful far right

My problem with British self-hatred amounts to this kind of vacuous obsequiousness. This desire for a national renewal, for Britain to reconstitute itself. Whereas for me and Webbie (I should think) it's more a case of the chickens coming home to roost.

yeah Britain being so fawing to anything any anybody to make it rise back to its so called former glory its embarassing especially considering how many African people still work security and cleaning jobs

 

[forclosure]

I was always annoyed by eg transphobic jokes in Friends, it's just that in 1997 I had no way of being heard, whereas now I can tweet asking why this was accepted.

i mean yes but that means you can also be greeted back with some mercenary troll sending you scat porn to "trigger" you

'visibility without protection is surveillance' trans people learnt in the hardest way that being visible without any form of protection online just makes you an open target all these different expectations and a lack of context there was a while ago where that sort of thing was exciting but now nah.

especially considering when some of these people are barely out of their teenage years

 

[forclosure]

in 1997 outside of "sensitive yet dated" depictions in something like boys don't cry the only way you would be "heard" was either through serial killers or porn

 

[version]

i think it's less the camera and more memes there's yutes in some dusty end of Montana who makes a shitpost about wishing he could get away with crapping on a politicans car the way a pidgeon does and that gets more laughs and responses than something a comedian has spent sleepless nights painstakingly putting together

and then they wonder why people say stand up comedy as an entire form is shit and should be gotten rid of

The Cum Town guys make about 75k a month off their podcast, far more than I expect they do actually doing stand up.

 

[forclosure]

The Cum Town guys make about 75k a month off their podcast, far more than I expect they do actually doing stand up.

hence my previous point that podcasts fucked up the entire game for everybody comedians got it in their heads that their "social comentators" and that people want to hear their opinons on everything and the fans decided to put them on pedastals cause they thought they were speaking truth to power.

the Bill Hicks myth run completly rampant

 

[version]

I dunno that the Cum Town guys specifically fall into that, they just seem to mess around from what I've heard, but I agree in general. Can't stand that "comedians are the new philosophers" thing and the veneration of people like George Carlin.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I dunno that the Cum Town guys specifically fall into that, they just seem to mess around from what I've heard, but I agree in general. Can't stand that "comedians are the new philosophers" thing and the veneration of people like George Carlin.

hence my previous point that podcasts fucked up the entire game for everybody comedians got it in their heads that their "social comentators" and that people want to hear their opinons on everything and the fans decided to put them on pedastals cause they thought they were speaking truth to power.

the Bill Hicks myth run completly rampant

Is there a more extreme case of this than Russel Brand?

 

[version]

The four that come to mind are Hicks, Carlin, Chappelle and Brand.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Anyone know what happened to Dave Chapelle last night at that comedy award thing? There's some talk that it might have been to do with some anti-trans jokes he's made.

 

[version]

Someone ran up on stage and tackled him whilst carrying some sort of contraption with a knife attached then him and his security team beat the shit out of them.

There's a vid of the person on a stretcher with one of their arms on backwards after having it broken or dislocated or something.

 

[version]

Chappelle managed to make the whole thing even worse by joking that they were probably a trans man.

 

[version]

Chris Rock coming on stage and asking whether it was Will Smith was pretty funny though.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Chris Rock coming on stage and asking whether it was Will Smith was pretty funny though.

Yeah, I heard about that bit. Crappy joke for Chapelle to make though.

 

[version]

The four that come to mind are Hicks, Carlin, Chappelle and Brand.

Seems significant that three of them are American and the one who isn't is based over there anyway. I know Bill Hicks was supposed to be more popular in Britain than the US at first, but that comedian - prophet thing seems to be an American phenomenon and I don't think it really flies over here. Frankie Boyle seems to be trying it a bit with how much he's leaned into politics over the years, but he isn't put on the pedestal that those guys are, Brand less so than the other three, mind you, as he's become a sort of Alex Jones figure rather than being celebrated for his comedy.

 

[shakahislop]

i mean i think this is reductive maybe its just people being more considerate of things that they weren't prior, to say it's just twitter is giving the site more power than it actually has.

Todd Philips before he went and "reinvented" himself as a serious clown director was a guy directing comedies where men called each other homophobic slurs as a way of affection

it's not just twitter. it's the way that - i know this isn't a new observation - basically anyone's opinions can be heard because pretty much anyone can participate in the internet. yeah i think that does make people more considerate, on the whole, or at least a certain tranche of people are more considerate of some things they weren't before