I would see human rights as the rights themselves, which exist even before we've identified them (because of a universal internal moral structure in the mind).two problems with this. firstly, what are those universally agreed upon moral precepts. and secondly, how are they to be enforced, given that there is no top level sovereign to appeal to.
An argument often used by the elites within a group to violate human rights of the oppressed within the same groupSome critics view the "human-rights order" as cultural imperialism.
they're not entirely wrong, are theySome critics view the "human-rights order" as cultural imperialism.
they're not entirely wrong, are they
how has human rights gone disastrously wrong? that's a bit ridiculousNo, but I can also see the argument for attempting to extend human rights across the globe. Obviously it's gone disastrously at times and been a cover for more nefarious things, but as an ideal it seems one of the better ones.
you could argue that but it's a weak troll moveI suppose it comes down to whether you think things are generally better now that they were before. You could equally argue that things are just as bad if not worse, and that is a result of the failure of the human rights approach.
how has human rights gone disastrously wrong? that's a bit ridiculous
No, that's nothing to do with actual human rights - at best that's a barely opaque smokescreen for standard aggressive imperialism (women in Affghanistan for e.g.)Hasn't the exporting of "freedom" been one of the pillars of various American attempts at foreign intervention? I don't think you can argue they've all gone well.
that's nothing to do with actual human rights though - at best that's a barely opaque smokescreen for standard aggressive imperialism (women in Affghanistan for e.g.)
yeah but actual human rights have improved countless lives (meaning HR law and the concept that HR exists, which is widely known and respected globally even if not 100% agreed on details)That's what I said:
"Obviously it's gone disastrously at times and been a cover for more nefarious things... "
yeah but actual human rights have improved countless lives (meaning HR law and the concept that HR exists, which is widely known and respected globally even if not 100% agreed on details)
erm both obvsDo people have a right to be considered equal or are they are equal?