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Diggedy Derek

Stray Dog
Thanks so much for posting the Premo mix, MMS, and whoever the genius was who posted the video to "Can You Feel It". That video is just incredible.
 
Tentative Andy

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
Erm, not sure about these comparisons. As I said before, I'm not very interested in defending Jackson as a person, but the fact that Glitter has been convicted in courts of law of paedophilic offences puts him in a somewhat different category I reckon.
 
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Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
Tentative Andy said:
Erm, not sure about these comparisons. As I said before, I'm not very interested in defending Jackson as a person, but the fact that Glitter has been convicted in courts of law of paedophilic offences puts him in a somewhat different category I reckon.
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The category of having less money to settle out of court is my guess.
 
Tentative Andy

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
Sick Boy said:
The category of having less money to settle out of court is my guess.
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Well yes, you may well be right. My personal belief is that Jackson almost certainly did some unsavoury things. And the freqeunt surprising acquitals or easy out of court settlements for wealthy celebrities is a very worrying development of recent years. But I still think you have to respect the difference between someone who has been found guilty and someone who hasn't - otherwise you're risking people never being able to properly clear their name. It's a thorny issue though, for sure.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Martin Dust said:
I wasn't aware that being an artist was a competition or something to be measured.
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Good point.

But nonetheless, if you could somehow quantify contributions-to-music-and-popular-culture, I think you might as well use an absolute scale that goes from '0' to 'Michael Jackson'.
 
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Martin Dust

Techno Zen Master
Mr. Tea said:
I think you might as well use an absolute scale that goes from '0' to 'Michael Jackson'.
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How so? How are you measuring it? On pure scale (marketing), talent, song writing blah blah, it doesn't add up to me and as much as I like charlatans and excentrics I can say hand on heart that nothing he's done has impressed me at all, subjective I know but I can safely say that he has never moved me (perhaps to turn it off) in the way some other artist have.
 
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Martin Dust

Techno Zen Master
Tentative Andy said:
Well yes, you may well be right. My personal belief is that Jackson almost certainly did some unsavoury things. And the freqeunt surprising acquitals or easy out of court settlements for wealthy celebrities is a very worrying development of recent years. But I still think you have to respect the difference between someone who has been found guilty and someone who hasn't - otherwise you're risking people never being able to properly clear their name. It's a thorny issue though, for sure.
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The sticking point for me is why an innocent man would buy silence when he already has the best lawyers in the land.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Martin Dust said:
The sticking point for me is why an innocent man would buy silence when he already has the best lawyers in the land.
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Well for one thing a long, high-profile and extremely lurid court case - even if he were eventually acquitted - could be have been far more damaging to his reputation and career than simply bunging the parents a wad of cash, I'd have thought.
 
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Martin Dust

Techno Zen Master
Sure, I'm just not sure the easy way was the best way but Jackson had less grip on reality than most but I'll give you that.
 
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