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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
the working class is completely capitalist and essential to capital and nothing else. It has no inherent moral worth separated from capital. Only when it rebels against its own existence as the working class does it open up the potential to go beyond.
 
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RWY

Well-known member
shiels said:
The point that these things are incompatible, that rudewhy is making, is a variation of 'you have an iphone yet' and should get the response 'and what?'. his response is also libidinal, he's jealous. luke wants a book deal, craner wants a book deal, thirdform definitely wants a fucking book deal
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I don't think my own libidinal desires are really much of a cause for interrogation. I hate to have to get all Mr Tea about this, but would it not be more worthwhile to consider the libidinal desires of all those men - and, if you want to start talking about biological drives, it is worth noting that it is mostly men - of the left whose sheer arrogance and meglomania has led them to believe that they are intelligent enough, important enough and deserving enough to be ruminating upon and diagnosing programs for the revolutionary upheaval and overturn of the whole of society? I may once have been envious of not holding the intellectual capacity to write a book on the history of Glasgow's municipal housing schemes, but at least I've never desired power far in excess of that which is legitimately attained by, and granted to, business leaders, politicians and royalty.

 
version

version

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I remember that. I don't think it's quite the same thing though. She was mocking them for getting coffee from Starbucks as though people can go without food and drink whereas selling books on critical theory isn't something you really have to do.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Rudewhy said:
I don't think my own libidinal desires are really much of a cause for interrogation. I hate to have to get all Mr Tea about this, but would it not be more worthwhile to consider the libidinal desires of all those men - and, if you want to start talking about biological drives, it is worth noting that it is mostly men - of the left whose sheer arrogance and meglomania has led them to believe that they are intelligent enough, important enough and deserving enough to be ruminating upon and diagnosing programs for the revolutionary upheaval and overturn of the whole of society? I may once have been envious of not holding the intellectual capacity to write a book on the history of Glasgow's municipal housing schemes, but at least I've never desired power far in excess of that which is legitimately attained by, and granted to, business leaders, politicians and royalty.

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Rubbish, you love to get all Mr. Tea about this.
 
luka

luka

Well-known member
I remembered her the other day. She went mad like Carole Cadwaller. The great madness that spread everywhere. @Benny B was talking about it the other day
 
shiels

shiels

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version said:
I remember that. I don't think it's quite the same thing though. She was mocking them for getting coffee from Starbucks as though people can go without food and drink whereas selling books on critical theory isn't something you really have to do.
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but people can go without coffee and iPhones. The point is... why should it be a contradiction to desire the things that have been produced
under capitalism or benefit from its fruits while pointing out that it’s immiserating, destroying us etc
 
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