films you've seen recently and would NOT recommend

john eden

male pale and stale
I would not recommend Charles Manson Superstar (1989, Nikolas Schreck and Zeena LaVey) or Boyd Rice: Iconoclast (2010, Larry Wessel).

Both are tedious bloated vehicles for the narcisism of their subjects. There are some very revealing anti-feminist segments in each.

You can watch them for free on youtube and archive.org respectively if somehow you have managed to watch everything else that exists.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
I would also not recommend the Borbetomagus documentary A Pollock of Sound (2016 Jef Mertens).

It is mainly some very good live footage with a few interviews strung around it - many of which are audio only with montages on top. It is fine as these things go and I don't begrudge the £4 I paid to watch it on Vimeo but was expecting more...
 

DLaurent

Well-known member
I have remembered I watched Herzogs Family Romance, LLC too. I've gone off his films slightly as I used to be fanatical about them, but this is the weakest documentary I've seen from him, really quite dull.
 

version

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Last of the Mohicans. Fucking appalling. The theme seems to kick in every five minutes. DDL's wooden acting. A romance that occurs after a single conversation. It's so clunky I'm convinced the studio must have butchered it for the sake of keeping the runtime down.

Not to mention DDL being an Englishman raised by Native Americans who happens to become the best hunter, leader etc and gives them a lecture on their own culture toward the end.
 

version

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I knew it was going to be bad, but it was worse than I expected. It's even more perplexing when you consider his previous film was Manhunter and the following one was Heat.
 

version

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It's so clunky I'm convinced the studio must have butchered it for the sake of keeping the runtime down.
I was right,

"The approximately 3 hour version director Mann delivered to the studio in 1992 was rejected and sent back for re-cut."

It's the sort of "epic" that's normally well over two hours yet it doesn't even reach the two hour mark.
 

version

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There's a really bad film with Piers brosnan in where he plays an english guy who lived with the native americans

Impossible to imagine this ever being taken seriously. It's like one of those fake trailers at the start of Tropic Thunder.
 

catalog

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i really like the scene in last of the mohicans where chicangchook (not spelt right i know) kills magua. that's a really good scene, really love it.

and dances with wolves director's cut is good.
 

version

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i really like the scene in last of the mohicans where chicangchook (not spelt right i know) kills magua. that's a really good scene, really love it.
There are some good shots and there's some nice scenery, but it doesn't make up for the rest of it. I did find myself rooting for the romance, mind you. It was hackneyed, but somehow more compelling than the action.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Last of the Mohicans. Fucking appalling. The theme seems to kick in every five minutes. DDL's wooden acting. A romance that occurs after a single conversation. It's so clunky I'm convinced the studio must have butchered it for the sake of keeping the runtime down.

Not to mention DDL being an Englishman raised by Native Americans who happens to become the best hunter, leader etc and gives them a lecture on their own culture toward the end.
Anyone read the book? I have tried so many times but never made it past the first page.
 

catalog

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daniel day lewis is very annoying, i agree.

i was thinking of reading it as it goes. that or a robert louis stevenson novel.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Michael Mann movies are always sort of tasteless aren't they

I don't mean they're not good, some of them are great

But the fashion in them, the music... It's all sort of corny.

Remembering how the detective is dressed in Collateral.
 

catalog

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he does this flattening out to all the characters that i find appealing. like he's clipped all the excesses.
 

version

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Michael Mann movies are always sort of tasteless aren't they

I don't mean they're not good, some of them are great

But the fashion in them, the music... It's all sort of corny.

Remembering how the detective is dressed in Collateral.
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