catalog

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linebaugh

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What did you think you were reading?
I thought it was some secondary lit written by others either explaining what d and g were saying or taking their ideas and running with it. I read it randomly while I was looking for extra texts around Anti-Oedipus and remember thinking ''oh man this is good, who wrote it?"
 

luka

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There's a chapter in The Pound Era where Kenner talks about a knot in a rope being a pattern of energy made visible by the rope. He says the same thing about water and the poetic image. It's the medium through which you see the shape of the energies.
In “A Gold Ring
Called Reluctance,” Prynne points to the fact that unity and coherence might themselves
be forms of violence: “biologic collapse is violence reversed, / like untying a knot”
 

version

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This Artaud quote that pops up early on in AO's good,

". . . this emotion, situated outside of the particular point
where the mind is searching for it . . . one's entire soul flows into this emotion
that makes the mind aware of the terribly disturbing sound of matter, and passes
through its white-hot flame."
 

version

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my other rat story is one my other mate told me and it was about when he went on a ratting trip to a farm with some professional ratters.

they built a big fire and then were just spearing the rats as they ran out from everywhere and flinging them on the fire.

and he said there's so much screeching, screaming and then the smell of burning flesh, so it was all a bit on top, but then he saw the thing that made it positively satanic, which was one rat crawling across the floor on fire and another rat was eating it.

@linebaugh and I convinced someone this was an excerpt from Anti-Oedipus by describing it as "a pretty loose translation".
 

catalog

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It was actually the same mate who came round and did thd ceiling for me, he's full of tall stories. He was telling me a classic about a night out with his bird.

And we were talking about the godfather book, by Mario puzo, cos I was showing him the first episode of "the offer" which is the kind of thing up his street.

Anyway, this other friend had been saying to me hod good the original godfather book is, I've never read it, and I knew he had, so I was asking him about it.

"Weird. Good, but weird."

"Weird how?"

Then he goes onto say how the Sonny character has a much bigger part and his affair is a major thing, and that the woman he's shagging says how 9nly sonny can satisfy her secually, cos he's got a big dick, and she's got this huge vagina.

And he said it's like your reading it and this thing about sonny's big dick anc her bucket fanny keep coming, not once but a few times.
 

shakahislop

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It was actually the same mate who came round and did thd ceiling for me, he's full of tall stories. He was telling me a classic about a night out with his bird.

And we were talking about the godfather book, by Mario puzo, cos I was showing him the first episode of "the offer" which is the kind of thing up his street.

Anyway, this other friend had been saying to me hod good the original godfather book is, I've never read it, and I knew he had, so I was asking him about it.

"Weird. Good, but weird."

"Weird how?"

Then he goes onto say how the Sonny character has a much bigger part and his affair is a major thing, and that the woman he's shagging says how 9nly sonny can satisfy her secually, cos he's got a big dick, and she's got this huge vagina.

And he said it's like your reading it and this thing about sonny's big dick anc her bucket fanny keep coming, not once but a few times.
I read this when I was about 14 and I vividly remember this bit
 

version

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I didn't realise Anti-Oedipus was mostly written by Guattari and Deleuze was essentially his editor. I suppose it makes sense given their respective fields and the content of the book.

Guattari's notes provide a fair bit of ammo to the people who argue it's all just nonsense too.

"I’m home kind of fucking around. Listening to my own words. Redundancy. Peepee poopoo. Things are so fucking weird!"

"Say stupid shit. Barf out the fucking-around-o-maniacal schizo flow."

"Writing for nobody? Impossible. You fumble, you stop. I don’t even take the trouble of expressing myself so that when I reread myself I can understand whatever it was I was trying to say. Gilles will figure it out, he’ll work it through."

 

woops

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I didn't realise Anti-Oedipus was mostly written by Guattari and Deleuze was essentially his editor. I suppose it makes sense given their respective fields and the content of the book.

Guattari's notes provide a fair bit of ammo to the people who argue it's all just nonsense too.

translation ain't very good
 

version

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I was surprised at how much of AO was already in Miller. They frequently quote from Sexus and he's already going on about desire, abandoning the analyst's couch, swarms and whatnot. They don't even have to put it in their own words, they can just lift the stuff verbatim and it slots right in.

The whole flows and machines thing is definitely a compelling idea, saw a bee land on a flower whilst reading it and felt like this,

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